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Post by Mia on Jan 3, 2017 20:22:36 GMT -5
I think it is time for Daryl to move away from Rick. Daryl got out from under Merle's thumb and it made him a better man. The man he should have always been. Now he is under his brother Rick's thumb. I feel like if Daryl moved to the Kingdom or Hilltop or any other place it would do wonders for him. I think he would become his own man instead of someones shadow. I think it is time for Daryl to step up and be the great man I know he can be. Just wanted to see if I was the only one that thinks this way.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jan 3, 2017 23:13:25 GMT -5
I want Daryl wherever Carol is, but I don't feel like Daryl is still under Rick's thumb. There was a time when I wanted Daryl to stop being Rick's yes man, but I think their relationship has or is shifting away from that. Maybe I'm reading into something that isn't there, or maybe Gimple's made an intentional choice to change their relationship (doubt it), or more likely the inconsistent writing may have something to do with my new viewpoint.
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Post by Mia on Jan 3, 2017 23:18:04 GMT -5
I want Daryl wherever Carol is, but I don't feel like Daryl is still under Rick's thumb. There was a time when I wanted Daryl to stop being Rick's yes man, but I think their relationship has or is shifting away from that. Maybe I'm reading into something that isn't there, or maybe Gimple's made an intentional choice to change their relationship (doubt it), or more likely the inconsistent writing may have something to do with my new viewpoint. Sometimes they let Daryl stand up or speak up to Rick. I guess I want more of it. I want Daryl to do what he wants and not what is best for Rick. Rick has a family now and it is time for Daryl to go after or do what he wants. I just think it would be an interesting arc for Daryl to branch out away from Rick. I don't want them to never be together again but it would be nice to see what Daryl could do on his own. I think I am the only one that feels this way. lol
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jan 3, 2017 23:57:20 GMT -5
Mia I, too, would love for Daryl to branch out from Rick even more than he already has because I want Daryl to come into his own. To different degrees he's been portrayed as a follower, and I want that to stop. I don't even want him to follow Carol, but to walk alongside her as an equal.
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Post by Mia on Jan 4, 2017 0:48:39 GMT -5
Mia I, too, would love for Daryl to branch out from Rick even more than he already has because I want Daryl to come into his own. To different degrees he's been portrayed as a follower, and I want that to stop. I don't even want him to follow Carol, but to walk alongside her as an equal. Yes to all of this.
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Post by AlienSoul on Jan 4, 2017 7:22:12 GMT -5
Mia I, too, would love for Daryl to branch out from Rick even more than he already has because I want Daryl to come into his own. To different degrees he's been portrayed as a follower, and I want that to stop. I don't even want him to follow Carol, but to walk alongside her as an equal. Yes, yes, yes. I think Daryl is capable of leadership when he's given the chance. He's just gotten so used to being told what to do and having no aim in life that I imagine sometimes he has a hard time making decisions or making decisions he feels are right. Having two controlling older brothers myself, I can relate. We've seen him stand up to Rick and I love those moments but I want him to move up from the status of right-hand man. It could be the Daryl lover in me talking, but I think he's too good for that. I want him become a leader of his own community. Whether or not that will ever happen, is another question entirely. I would love for him and Carol to lead a community together. They'd complete each other. *sap*In conclusion, Mia , no, you are definitely not the only one who feels this way.
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Post by Mia on Jan 4, 2017 9:05:18 GMT -5
Mia I, too, would love for Daryl to branch out from Rick even more than he already has because I want Daryl to come into his own. To different degrees he's been portrayed as a follower, and I want that to stop. I don't even want him to follow Carol, but to walk alongside her as an equal. Yes, yes, yes. I think Daryl is capable of leadership when he's given the chance. He's just gotten so used to being told what to do and having no aim in life that I imagine sometimes he has a hard time making decisions or making decisions he feels are right. Having two controlling older brothers myself, I can relate. We've seen him stand up to Rick and I love those moments but I want him to move up from the status of right-hand man. It could be the Daryl lover in me talking, but I think he's too good for that. I want him become a leader of his own community. Whether or not that will ever happen, is another question entirely. I would love for him and Carol to lead a community together. They'd complete each other. *sap*In conclusion, Mia , no, you are definitely not the only one who feels this way. Glad I am not alone. It just gets old seeing Rick fly of the handle and Daryl reigning him in. It is time for Daryl to be more than that.
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Post by Starlight on Jan 4, 2017 12:04:40 GMT -5
I think season 7 will be the season Daryl will finally becomes his own man.Not following anyone and him making his own decisions.
Daryl's arc in season 7 is stripping the character of everything. And getting to who Daryl really is and will be. And I think the show giving him a shirt similar to Rick's in the MSF, is foreshadowing that Daryl will be taking on a leadership role at a new location.
The show could have easily given Daryl a armless shirt, but they didn't. They had him mirror leader Rick's clothing. My guess Daryl will make a home at The Kindgom or Hilltop. It all depends on what the show does with both locations. But as the Hilltop is about Maggie and her becoming leader of that place. I would say Daryl will be end up at The Kindgom.
I do find it strange that some of Daryl fans just want him to live out his life stuck to Rick 24 / 7. Yes they are brothers. but like in real life siblings / family members move away from each other. And creating their own lives.Daryl isn't number one with Rick. Rick's properties are his kids then Michonne. I think Daryl should have a life outside of serving Rick's needs. Actually all the characters deserve to have a lives outside of Rick' s dictatorship.
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Post by v on Jan 4, 2017 13:15:33 GMT -5
I'd like to see Daryl more independent. For me its like this: Daryl "followed" Merle around pretty much his whole adult life (per him) and he pretty much switched out Merle for Rick. While the relationship with rick is very different than the one with Merle, it still put Daryl mostly (IMO) in the role of "little Brother". (just fyi I have NEVER seen the Rickyl relationship as an equal one, more of a big brother/little brother type one) We also saw him easily fall into the follower role with beth, Joe ect. When Carol said "it's like you were a kid, now you're a man" I felt that related not only to Daryl's previous story but also as kind of a plot point to show he would move to a more independent mind set. As for what that will look like, I don't see him moving to Hilltop (could be wrong but ..) because that is Maggie's arc. I am not sure about the kingdom, I've felt that was more for Morgan and that Carol's role there was more to just stick her someplace for now. (could also be wrong but...) I also don't see him leaving Rick for long periods of time. My thought is that Michonne will take more of the "right Hand" role with rick (as it should be) and Daryl would become more of a floater between the communities. Obviously, I would like to see him where ever Carol is, but that isn't really what this is about so I will save the rest of that for another thread. As I said, I would like to see him stand on his own more and not be anyones "little brother". Daryl, IMO much like Carol does not seem to WANT a leadership role, at least not one were he is a leader like Rick or Maggie. The council they had set up at the prison worked for both Carol and Daryl because they weren't the ultimate decision maker. While both are capable of that level of leadership, neither seems to want it. does that make sense?
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Post by AlienSoul on Jan 4, 2017 13:40:14 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that?
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Post by v on Jan 4, 2017 13:45:25 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that? that's true, but unless he ends up leading the saviors or something I don;t see where he could lead. Comic spoilers {Spoiler} after everything is said and done with negan and Zeke ends up dead because of the Whisperers, Michonne ends up leading the Kingdom. that isn;t until 2 years after Negan is captured and there is a huge time jump. {Spoiler} Dwight ends up leading the saviors for a short time, before he is basically overthrown. Sherry ends up leaving him for another savior and Dwight ends up being one of Rick's right hand people. this is prior to the whisper wars just fyi
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Post by v on Jan 4, 2017 13:46:31 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that? I really hope not. honestly that would be the death keel for Caryl imo and while I want Daryl to be independent, I really want my Caryl LOL check my above post as well but {Spoiler} if Daryl were to lead sanctuary then I would say they do plan to hook Daryl and Sherry up. me no likey.
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Post by AlienSoul on Jan 4, 2017 14:00:55 GMT -5
v , Riiight. {Spoiler}I forgot that Sherry ends up leading the Sanctuary.
Hey, I'm with you. As much as I love my boy Daryl and want him to reach the top, I want Caryl more AND them leading someplace together would be even better, IMO. As Starlight said, Rick has his kids and Michonne and I think that as much as he loves Daryl, they come first. I want Daryl to have someone who would put him first. Right now that person would be Carol and I just don't want either of them to stay under Rick's thumb. I want them to lead a community together. Hilltop belongs to Maggie, so there is only the Sanctuary and the Kingdom, and with Carol in the equation, the Kingdom seems more likely. As much as it hurts me to even think about it, if Carol ends up at the Kingdom and hooks up with Ezekiel, then I want Daryl to have the Sanctuary. eta: Just as Daryl leading the Sanctuary without Carol would be the death keel for Caryl, so would Carol leading the Kingdom without Daryl by her side. At least for me it would be. (Sorry. Getting off topic.)
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Post by v on Jan 4, 2017 14:05:38 GMT -5
v , Riiight. {Spoiler}I forgot that Sherry ends up leading the Sanctuary.
Hey, I'm with you. As much as I love my boy Daryl and want him to reach the top, I want Caryl more AND them leading someplace together would be even better, IMO. As Starlight said, Rick has his kids and Michonne and I think that as much as he loves Daryl, they come first. I want Daryl to have someone who would put him first. Right now that person would be Carol and I just don't want either of them to stay under Rick's thumb. I want them to lead a community together. Hilltop belongs to Maggie, so there is only the Sanctuary and the Kingdom, and with Carol in the equation, the Kingdom seems more likely. As much as it hurts me to even think about it, if Carol ends up at the Kingdom and hooks up with Ezekiel, then I want Daryl to have the Sanctuary. eta: Just as Daryl leading the Sanctuary would be the death knell for Caryl, so would Carol leading the Kingdom without Daryl by her side. At least for me it would be. I still maintain that neither want to lead or would be willing too for the most part. my other issue with Daryl leading sanctuary is that puts him right back in with a group of people that are very much like Merle pre za and Joe's group. As brain washed as they are, they need someone that Broke under Negan's rule and lived through it. I don;t see them killing Dwight off any time soon and think someone from within will take over (maybe simon, )
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Post by Meggo358 on Jan 4, 2017 14:13:28 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that? Just chiming to say I think Daryl ending up at the sanctuary is possible (and I would understand it)but not super likely, given a few things: the number of team family which will already be scattered across different groups Dwights very existence setting him up for sanctuary leadership (and no one cares about some buddy cop comedy team with those Daryl and Dwight) the show not wanting to break up rickyl (even though they like every other friendship go long periods without really being too involved with each other's story) the unpopularity of the sanctuary/saviors group - this is probably my weakest point given that this could be exactly why Daryl is shuffled off there, but I could see them downplaying certain communities as time goes on
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Post by Starlight on Jan 4, 2017 14:25:58 GMT -5
I'd like to see Daryl more independent. For me its like this: Daryl "followed" Merle around pretty much his whole adult life (per him) and he pretty much switched out Merle for Rick. While the relationship with rick is very different than the one with Merle, it still put Daryl mostly (IMO) in the role of "little Brother". (just fyi I have NEVER seen the Rickyl relationship as an equal one, more of a big brother/little brother type one) We also saw him easily fall into the follower role with beth, Joe ect. When Carol said "it's like you were a kid, now you're a man" I felt that related not only to Daryl's previous story but also as kind of a plot point to show he would move to a more independent mind set. As for what that will look like, I don't see him moving to Hilltop (could be wrong but ..) because that is Maggie's arc. I am not sure about the kingdom, I've felt that was more for Morgan and that Carol's role there was more to just stick her someplace for now. (could also be wrong but...) I also don't see him leaving Rick for long periods of time. My thought is that Michonne will take more of the "right Hand" role with rick (as it should be) and Daryl would become more of a floater between the communities. Obviously, I would like to see him where ever Carol is, but that isn't really what this is about so I will save the rest of that for another thread. As I said, I would like to see him stand on his own more and not be anyones "little brother". Daryl, IMO much like Carol does not seem to WANT a leadership role, at least not one were he is a leader like Rick or Maggie. The council they had set up at the prison worked for both Carol and Daryl because they weren't the ultimate decision maker. While both are capable of that level of leadership, neither seems to want it. does that make sense? This line " I've felt that was more for Morgan and that Carol's role there was more to just stick her someplace for now. " this is were I go back on forward with Carol and Daryl being at The Kindgom. If SG long term plan for Carol was for her to lead and stay at the Kingdom. Then I think he would have put her physically in The Kindgom. Instead he removed her and put her in a new non - comic location. And had Morgan stay at The Kindgom and bond with The Kindgom people...
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Post by AlienSoul on Jan 4, 2017 14:28:34 GMT -5
v , Riiight. {Spoiler}I forgot that Sherry ends up leading the Sanctuary.
Hey, I'm with you. As much as I love my boy Daryl and want him to reach the top, I want Caryl more AND them leading someplace together would be even better, IMO. As Starlight said, Rick has his kids and Michonne and I think that as much as he loves Daryl, they come first. I want Daryl to have someone who would put him first. Right now that person would be Carol and I just don't want either of them to stay under Rick's thumb. I want them to lead a community together. Hilltop belongs to Maggie, so there is only the Sanctuary and the Kingdom, and with Carol in the equation, the Kingdom seems more likely. As much as it hurts me to even think about it, if Carol ends up at the Kingdom and hooks up with Ezekiel, then I want Daryl to have the Sanctuary. eta: Just as Daryl leading the Sanctuary would be the death knell for Caryl, so would Carol leading the Kingdom without Daryl by her side. At least for me it would be. I still maintain that neither want to lead or would be willing too for the most part. my other issue with Daryl leading sanctuary is that puts him right back in with a group of people that are very much like Merle pre za and Joe's group. As brain washed as they are, they need someone that Broke under Negan's rule and lived through it. I don;t see them killing Dwight off any time soon and think someone from within will take over (maybe simon, ) I hope you're right for two reasons: #1 Pathetic shippy purposes. I could suffer the disappointment of him never leading his own community if he got his girl and some happiness with her. (+ it would almost kill any chances of another ship happening.) ..... .... .... .... ... #28 I want the family together (minus Maggie and co. I suppose :/ Hilltop is her home now). Hmmm. Simon seems very dick-ish. If he were to take over the Sanctuary, he'd have to change drastically (as I assume the new Sanctuary is going to be different, better than it is now). Confession: I have yet to warm up to Simon. I see everyone fangirling/-boying over him and I feel like I must be missing something. Most likely because I'm not familiar with any of his previous work. Meggo358 , I'm with you. While I think it's possible, I haven't given much thought into the Daryl-leading-the-Sanctuary theory because as of now we have little evidence, so it's mostly speculation. I constantly see people in the online community say that the show won't split up Rick and Daryl... I don't really understand this idea. Is "Rickyl" even that popular with the GA? The only argument I can think of is Norman and Andy's real life friendship and them possibly campaigning to stay together. Starlight , It's possible Gimple put her in the creepy house as a way to check off another comic book storyline (Michonne isolating herself) without forcing Carol to dress up as a pirate, so to speak. (And chose to introduce Oceanside through Tara).
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Post by Meggo358 on Jan 4, 2017 14:34:52 GMT -5
I still maintain that neither want to lead or would be willing too for the most part. my other issue with Daryl leading sanctuary is that puts him right back in with a group of people that are very much like Merle pre za and Joe's group. As brain washed as they are, they need someone that Broke under Negan's rule and lived through it. I don;t see them killing Dwight off any time soon and think someone from within will take over (maybe simon, ) I hope you're right for two reasons: #1 Pathetic shippy purposes. I could suffer the disappointment of him never leading his own community if he got his girl and some happiness with her. (+ it would almost kill any chances of another ship happening.) ..... .... .... .... ... #28 I want the family together (minus Maggie and co. I suppose :/ Hilltop is her home now). Hmmm. Simon seems very dick-ish. If he were to take over the Sanctuary, he'd have to change drastically. Confession: I have yet to warm up to Simon. I see everyone fangirling/-boying over him and I feel like I must be missing something. Most likely because I'm not familiar with any of his previous work. Meggo358 , I'm with you. While I think it's possible, I haven't given much thought into Daryl-leading-the-Sanctuary theory because as of now we have little evidence, so it's mostly speculation. I see people in the online community saying how the show wouldn't want to split up Rick and Daryl... I don't really understand this idea. Is "Rickyl" even that popular with the GA? The only argument I can think of is Norman and Andy's real life friendship and their campaigning to stay together. I don't really have an idea as to how popular Rickyl is, but it's been heavily marketed and talked about since season 2, they're seen as "brothers", etc....this show doesn't seem to make decisions based primarily on what's popular (otherwise 7a would have been very, very different) but it does seem to stick to certain mainstays, the Rick and Daryl bond being one of them. That's why I have a hard time seeing them split up, and also because it hard for me to see Daryl leading the charge in a separate community.
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Post by AlienSoul on Jan 4, 2017 14:36:41 GMT -5
Meggo358, Carol & Daryl have also been heavily marketed and they are certainly popular with the GA and the media, and yet they've been separated for close to two seasons now. So it's quite possible that they could do the same to Rick/Daryl, IMO.
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Post by v on Jan 4, 2017 14:40:29 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that? Just chiming to say I think Daryl ending up at the sanctuary is possible (and I would understand it)but not super likely, given a few things: the number of team family which will already be scattered across different groups Dwights very existence setting him up for sanctuary leadership (and no one cares about some buddy cop comedy team with those Daryl and Dwight) the show not wanting to break up rickyl (even though they like every other friendship go long periods without really being too involved with each other's story) the unpopularity of the sanctuary/saviors group - this is probably my weakest point given that this could be exactly why Daryl is shuffled off there, but I could see them downplaying certain communities as time goes on I agree. nothing to add here. except Sancutary plays a smaller role after everything with Negan.
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Post by Meggo358 on Jan 4, 2017 14:51:51 GMT -5
Meggo358 , Carol & Daryl have also been heavily marketed and they are certainly popular with the GA and the media, and yet they've been separated for close to two seasons now. So it's quite possible that they could do the same to Rick/Daryl, IMO. Sure, it's definitely possible, but the fact that Rick and Daryl haven't been split up for a significant amount of time where they're clearly willing to with Carol and Daryl for multiple seasons might also reflect the show's willingness to split those two guys up. If the characters land in different spots but gimple gets smart and their stories start to overlap it may not turn out to be a major issue in terms of TF bonds
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Post by Starlight on Jan 4, 2017 14:54:37 GMT -5
AlienSoul very possible on SG just simply checking of comic arcs.If he was.Then at least we know own that Carol's dragged out arc since season 4 will be finally be over.
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Post by Meggo358 on Jan 4, 2017 14:59:04 GMT -5
v, that's a great point. So unless NR decides he wants to focus more on cons and his motorcycle I can't see Daryl being sidelined for a long duration in the sanctuary
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Post by Starlight on Jan 4, 2017 15:03:55 GMT -5
Honestly Rickyl is a fandom thing more than a GA thing. The reunion between Rick and Daryl really didn't create much press. The big Rickyl episode ended up being about introducing Jesus and canoning Richonne.
Since season 5 SG has being slowing moving Daryl out of Rick's orbit. The screentime between the two has decreased alot. In 5A majority of Daryl's screentime was with Carol. The majority of Rick's screentime in 5b and 6a was with Jessie and michonne. In 6b they had they big much Rickyl episode. After that episide Daryl was moved in Denise's orbit..
Even in season 7 Daryl won't have much screentime with Rick. By episode 10 Daryl will spilt for Rick yet again.
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Post by Mia on Jan 4, 2017 15:07:26 GMT -5
I think season 7 will be the season Daryl will finally becomes his own man.Not following anyone and him making his own decisions. Daryl's arc in season 7 is stripping the character of everything. And getting to who Daryl really is and will be. And I think the show giving him a shirt similar to Rick's in the MSF, is foreshadowing that Daryl will be taking on a leadership role at a new location. The show could have easily given Daryl a armless shirt, but they didn't. They had him mirror leader Rick's clothing. My guess Daryl will make a home at The Kindgom or Hilltop. It all depends on what the show does with both locations. But as the Hilltop is about Maggie and her becoming leader of that place. I would say Daryl will be end up at The Kindgom. I do find it strange that some of Daryl fans just want him to live out his life stuck to Rick 24 / 7. Yes they are brothers. but like in real life siblings / family members move away from each other. And creating their own lives.Daryl isn't number one with Rick. Rick's properties are his kids then Michonne. I think Daryl should have a life outside of serving Rick's needs. Actually all the characters deserve to have a lives outside of Rick' s dictatorship. Yes to all of this!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Meggo358 on Jan 4, 2017 15:13:26 GMT -5
Honestly Rickyl is a fandom thing more than a GA thing. The reunion between Rick and Daryl really didn't create much press. The big Rickyl episode ended up being about introducing Jesus and canoning Richonne. Since season 5 SG has being slowing moving Daryl out of Rick's orbit. The screentime between the two has decreased alot. In 5A majority of Daryl's screentime was with Carol. The majority of Rick's screentime in 5b and 6a was with Jessie and michonne. In 6b they had they big much Rickyl episode. After that episide Daryl was moved in Denise's orbit.. Even in season 7 Daryl won't have much screentime with Rick. By episode 10 Daryl will spilt for Rick yet again. To be fair, pretty much zilch got much media attention after the MSF (because nothing interesting happened). - I have listened to podcasts and seen plenty of articles focusing on rickyl but I'd still never argue that these two hanging out is essential to the story. Ricks got his people and Daryl gets assigned to new characters - they've kind of outgrown each other...I don't know if the show would send these two on their separate ways but it wouldn't hurt anything if they weren't in the same community
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Post by Starlight on Jan 4, 2017 15:19:18 GMT -5
v , you make great points, but I just wanted to add that just because someone doesn't want to be a leader doesn't mean they won't end up having to take on that role. There are theories floating around that Daryl could end up leading the Sanctuary. Instead of Dwight. What do you all think about that? Just chiming to say I think Daryl ending up at the sanctuary is possible (and I would understand it)but not super likely, given a few things: the number of team family which will already be scattered across different groups Dwights very existence setting him up for sanctuary leadership (and no one cares about some buddy cop comedy team with those Daryl and Dwight) the show not wanting to break up rickyl (even though they like every other friendship go long periods without really being too involved with each other's story) the unpopularity of the sanctuary/saviors group - this is probably my weakest point given that this could be exactly why Daryl is shuffled off there, but I could see them downplaying certain communities as time goes on I could see Daryl being used as a runner / messager passing information from one location to another. I think that is actually happening in 7b. The show knows the new locations aren't working, So think putting the fan favourite at these locations will get the GA to tune in. We have Daryl shuttled to Sanctuary then {Spoiler} He is put in The Kindgom for episode 10... then he is put at Hilltop for 13.. then he was seen with the oceanside group in episode 15.. The big question is where will Daryl be permanently based... and I can't see it being Sanctuary. That arc is being set up for Dwight the "who's the boss" playing in The Cell was probably foreshadowing it.. Sherry looks to probably being killed of in 7b.
The two locations that will be downplayed will end up being The kindgom for certain and Sanctuary after Negan is captured. I can't see the show spending much time there without Negan there.
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Post by honkytonkwoman on Jan 4, 2017 15:40:13 GMT -5
I agree that Sherry will probably die to propel Dwight to the good side.
I'd be devastated if they went with Daryl and Sherry. I like her, but the only thing that separates her from Carol is the fact that the actress is younger. And she's not nearly as interesting as Carol.
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Post by booksrbetter on Jan 4, 2017 20:56:08 GMT -5
I want Carol and Daryl together. I can see them at the Kingdom because it would be kind of a kick for Carol to wind up living there after she was so dismissive. It should be Morgan how long will Lennie James put up with the awful writing for his character? Remember 4.1? Carol and Daryl walking around conferring about security on the prison fences, flirting, and both of them working within a council to run the prison. It makes sense that the Kingdom would be like that if something happened to Ezekiel. Rick has a new best friend. Michonne. She is a better best friend than Daryl because she seems to have better instincts. She kicked Rick's ass to push him to Alexandria. She hit him over the head when he was fighting Pete. Good instincts. Michonne becomes less interesing when she basically spends her time propping up Rick, but that's her job now. She took the magic mints. I could see Carol and Daryl in Alexandria because it may be that Rick and Michonne will be traveling from one community to another to deal with problems, solidifying the bonds between them, and encouraging group projects. There will always be threats and a need for cooperation. Carol and Daryl might be more interested in keeping Alexandria functioning. I don't want to see Daryl as Rick's right hand all the time. Friends and fellow warriors? Yes. I don't think Daryl is going to just hanging around on the porch drinking lemonade with Carol all the time though. He's Daryl. He has to go off the reservation once or twice a season.
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Post by Ripley on Jan 4, 2017 21:21:31 GMT -5
Mia I, too, would love for Daryl to branch out from Rick even more than he already has because I want Daryl to come into his own. To different degrees he's been portrayed as a follower, and I want that to stop. I don't even want him to follow Carol, but to walk alongside her as an equal. Yes, yes, yes. I think Daryl is capable of leadership when he's given the chance. He's just gotten so used to being told what to do and having no aim in life that I imagine sometimes he has a hard time making decisions or making decisions he feels are right. Having two controlling older brothers myself, I can relate. We've seen him stand up to Rick and I love those moments but I want him to move up from the status of right-hand man. It could be the Daryl lover in me talking, but I think he's too good for that. I want him become a leader of his own community. Whether or not that will ever happen, is another question entirely. I would love for him and Carol to lead a community together. They'd complete each other. *sap*In conclusion, Mia , no, you are definitely not the only one who feels this way. The one time Daryl tried being a leader in the ASZ-era, in 'Always Accountable", remember, he ran into Dwight, Sherry, Penny and that group. He considered asking them to ASZ, and started the questions but lost his bike, crossbow and self-confidence as a result of taking that risk. Norman Reedus and TPTB articles have made a big deal of that moment and the consequences of Daryl's taking a risk yet failing there, so we know it is significant. I used ot think Daryl was a (potential) leader in the same vein as Rick or as Glenn grew into being but in recent seasons backed away from that thought. Yes, he followed Merle around and later Rick, but was always able to come up with ideas and plans such as when Sophia was lost, when he and Glenn tracked Randall and Shane, plus throughout seasons 3-4. Post-4-B, aka the "Season of Many Fans' Discontent" Daryl backed away and regressed from that. Sure, some of that came from the deaths of Bob, Beth and Tyreese since we were told that interviews and appearances, but Daryl only recovered from that slump for a short time with Aaron. He did well there and seemed back to his old self. Denise's death seemed to trigger another regression, effectively erasing most of his recent growth and then boom! Lineup time, a Negan punch and Glenn is dead, with Daryl again blaming himself (as we have been told in interviews, TDead appearances etc. His captivity in season 7, plus the need to stay one step ahead of The Saviors, (who have played the control game well IMO) adds additional stressors for Daryl who has not even had time to deal with the emotional and physical wounds of imprisonment. So the show may have him roar back unscathed but if so, I will be , again. Thi swill likely be an unpopular opinion (which is fine) but I think Daryl can be a terrific tier-2 leader, like a squad leader or a leader Rick can delegate to quite well. I do not think at this point, we have seen Daryl owning the same exact abilities as Rick to be capable of leading the entire group. YMMV/Mileage, of course.
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