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Post by Ripley on Apr 2, 2017 12:25:01 GMT -5
Page 6 dated 4/2/17 "...“It’s such a thing, the love story, you know what I mean? Once you throw someone up against a tree, it’s over,” actor Norman Reedus told Page Six at this week’s Garden of Laughs comedy benefit. “I kind of don’t know that Daryl is mature enough to do that.” The 48-year-old then compared his character to Mr. Spock from “Star Trek.” “Let Rick get all the girls,” he said, adding, “I’m like Spock on ‘Star Trek’ and he’s like Captain Kirk. He gets all the ladies and I sit in the background and say weird things.” Due to the extreme “shipping” wars from “Walking Dead” fanatics, Reedus is tight-lipped about which female character he’d like to have a side story with... link
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Apr 2, 2017 12:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mia on Apr 2, 2017 12:50:54 GMT -5
Daryl really needs to grow up but then so does Norman.
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Apr 2, 2017 12:56:58 GMT -5
But either I have deja vu, or he has already spoken these phrases more than once. Norman's sure that the infantile Daryl is cool and when his character creates an illogical dull shit - he's cool. Someone should say him that such Daryl will be of interest only to the little girls and then they will get tired and switch their attention to another character. NR is confident that Daryl is the sweetest candy, because no one has seen his candy, buhe is an ordinary old physalis. I wonder what NR aims to do when it repeats its own words for the third time? Is not it simpler or more honest to say that he does not know whether Daryl will ever be with someone
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Apr 2, 2017 12:58:17 GMT -5
Daryl really needs to grow up but then so does Norman. Your avatar's so nice
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Post by Mia on Apr 2, 2017 13:00:06 GMT -5
Daryl really needs to grow up but then so does Norman. Your avatar's so nice Thanks when I get pissed I get creative. And I have so many emotions inside me right now. And can't speak them anywhere. So I had to make something to help me.
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Apr 2, 2017 13:05:10 GMT -5
Your avatar's so nice Thanks when I get pissed I get creative. And I have so many emotions inside me right now. And can't speak them anywhere. So I had to make something to help me. It's good that emotions ( bad and good) find an outlet in creativity. I usually just experience frustration, after which indifference comes forever. I like your works, but would like that in the future for it there you will were occasions in the form of overflowing with joy and delight, and not just disappointment.
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Post by murph on Apr 2, 2017 13:09:15 GMT -5
I get it's an annoying question for him and one that he thinks he can't give a right answer to, but is also a question he has had a long time to figure out how to answer better. If he really believes his character isn't "mature" enough for a romantic relationship, shouldn't he think that's actually a problem and therefore development he would want to have? Didn't he give some good answers last season or the one before about how he thought it would be nice for Daryl to start heading that way? When he was complimenting the other romantic relationships going on in the show instead of putting them down?
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Post by Ripley on Apr 2, 2017 13:17:00 GMT -5
Well, everyone keep in mind that: a) whatever Norman thinks about Daryl isn't necessarily what will happen on the show and b) Norman gets asked these questions often about that he could ask AMC for instructions and give the same answer every time, which he does not.
Norman is neither the showrunner nor a writer of the show, period, so whatever they decide will be canon, even if Norman would prefer something else. Just part of being an actor in modern TV.
While Norman sees Daryl one way, his version of Daryl- aka "lone wolf" as he said for a long while a few years ago, isn't always true or even reasonably insightful.
Norman seems to prefer Daryl have very Norman qualities, which isn't always the case. Yes, Daryl smokes on-screen now which he did not in the first couple of seasons, but Norman doesn't always get his way. He never got that dog he wanted and I tend to doubt that he calls all the shots fans think, or else he would not have had a few seasons of being mopey, emo, etc. Norman has made it clear he is ready for Daryl to be back in action and leave the gloomy emo period behind.
So just keep in mind that Norman Reedus too must abide by whatever decisions the showrunner makes regardless of his personal feelings. Actors have been written off the show (Dale- Jeffrey DeMunn who changed his mind about leaving but was killed off anyway because it was too late) for not going along with plotlines or changes in showrunner, so Norman won't be leaving TWD anytime soon IMO.
I do wish he would learn to be thoughtful or more consistent in these situations than he has been for the past 7 seasons.
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Post by honkytonkwoman on Apr 2, 2017 13:35:57 GMT -5
I don't believe that what nonsense NR spouts in interviews has any bearing on what will happen on the show but as a barely-hanging on Daryl fan, I do get tired of the fact that he seems to have so little insight into his character or into what a romance for Daryl would entail. I doubt very much they they are going to make Daryl into a stud who hooks up with a new redshirt love interest every week. It's not that kind of show. If Daryl does get in a relationship with the woman he cares for, it will be a natural progression.
NR acts like Daryl is 21 (only in his dreams). Daryl is at least 45 if not older. It's not cute to say a 45 year old man is "too immature" to have a relationship. It's sad. Noah or Spencer might be too immature. Both dead redshirts I concede. How about Carl? He actually is a kid. Or Jesus who admitted to a history of relationships that didn't last long? And who actually is a young man.
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Post by murph on Apr 2, 2017 13:43:37 GMT -5
I don't believe that what nonsense NR spouts in interviews has any bearing on what will happen on the show but as a barely-hanging on Daryl fan, I do get tired of the fact that he seems to have so little insight into his character or into what a romance for Daryl would entail. I doubt very much they they are going to make Daryl into a stud who hooks up with a new redshirt love interest every week. It's not that kind of show. If Daryl does get in a relationship with the woman he cares for, it will be a natural progression. NR acts like Daryl is 21 (only in his dreams). Daryl is at least 45 if not older. It's not cute to say a 45 year old man is "too immature" to have a relationship. It's sad. Noah or Spencer might be too immature. Both dead redshirts I concede. How about Carl? He actually is a kid. Or Jesus who admitted to a history of relationships that didn't last long? And who actually is a young man. It also seems like such an inappropriate time to say it too, considering what's actually on the show right now. I mean, he's using Rick as an excuse. Rick who is now with Michonne and will be so until they both die (which is never) and whose relationship has had some really lovely moments for the characters involved this season. The relationship has not in any way stunted Rick, it's added to him. It's like he's had to blank on that reality to say what he has.
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Post by honkytonkwoman on Apr 2, 2017 13:49:46 GMT -5
I don't believe that what nonsense NR spouts in interviews has any bearing on what will happen on the show but as a barely-hanging on Daryl fan, I do get tired of the fact that he seems to have so little insight into his character or into what a romance for Daryl would entail. I doubt very much they they are going to make Daryl into a stud who hooks up with a new redshirt love interest every week. It's not that kind of show. If Daryl does get in a relationship with the woman he cares for, it will be a natural progression. NR acts like Daryl is 21 (only in his dreams). Daryl is at least 45 if not older. It's not cute to say a 45 year old man is "too immature" to have a relationship. It's sad. Noah or Spencer might be too immature. Both dead redshirts I concede. How about Carl? He actually is a kid. Or Jesus who admitted to a history of relationships that didn't last long? And who actually is a young man. It also seems like such an inappropriate time to say it too, considering what's actually on the show right now. I mean, he's using Rick as an excuse. Rick who is now with Michonne and will be so until they both die (which is never) and whose relationship has had some really lovely moments for the characters involved this season. The relationship has not in any way stunted Rick, it's added to him. It's like he's had to blank on that reality to say what he has. He's so clueless about relationships.
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Apr 2, 2017 13:54:37 GMT -5
It also seems like such an inappropriate time to say it too, considering what's actually on the show right now. I mean, he's using Rick as an excuse. Rick who is now with Michonne and will be so until they both die (which is never) and whose relationship has had some really lovely moments for the characters involved this season. The relationship has not in any way stunted Rick, it's added to him. It's like he's had to blank on that reality to say what he has. He's so clueless about relationships. he that lies down with dogs must rise up with fleas ... If I did not know that both dudes with their women, I would say that they with Nicotero are loving couple
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Post by Starlight on Apr 2, 2017 14:13:13 GMT -5
Personally sometimes I think Norman like some of his fans, find it hard to separate Norman from Daryl. Norman has said many times in interviews he doesn't do relationships. Like him saying he does 2 years with a chick then that's it. He also really likes to play up to the man child image, because I guess he thinks fans like seeing a man nearly 50 acting like a child. While the kid on the show CR acts more mature. So yeah I just ignore everything that comes out of Norman's mouth, when he is talking about his character and the show.
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Post by atlanta on Apr 2, 2017 14:28:41 GMT -5
Daryl isn't immature, Norman is
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Post by Mia on Apr 2, 2017 14:38:41 GMT -5
Norman is the last person that should be giving Daryl relationship advice.
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Post by dark sister on Apr 2, 2017 14:47:38 GMT -5
99% of everything that comes out of NR's mouth is stupid and contradictory. Also Daryl = Spock? Spock, who is a genius, who has control of his emotions, and who is in a loving relationship with Uhura? That Spock? NR, do you watch Star Trek?
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Post by oasishaze on Apr 2, 2017 15:51:18 GMT -5
They need to start getting someone like Andy or Melissa or Lennie to write scripts for NR to use when he does TWD interviews. He can be a thoughtless manchild all he wants but in interviews where he is supposed to give insight into his character, he should at least think about what he's going to say. But instead he just seems to blabber the first coherent thought that pops into his head. "Oh I know, I'll talk about throwing people against trees, I haven't done that one in a few months." Even though I don't think NR and his childishness has any impact on what Gimple and Co. have planned for Daryl in the future (because as we all know, Gimple doesn't listen to a whole lot of people ), hearing NR talk like this, making the fact that he would just love to live through Daryl and that he wishes that Daryl was a Barney Stinson-esque stud, all the more painfully clear - well it makes me sad that Daryl isn't portrayed by someone who can do him justice, someone who understands him the way MMB understands Carol. Someone who is actually willing to breathe life into him as a character separate from themselves, rather than someone who speaks about Daryl as if he actually is Daryl, rather than someone who, if he had it his way, would have Daryl hooking up with a different (20y/o) woman every single episode. Daryl is a character who is totally different than NR in so many ways and I just wish Darabont would have chosen a mature, emotionally grown-up actor who could handle portraying a character on a long-running show, instead of an actor who just did short stints in movies, where virtually your only job is to be a "hawt stud". That's what NR is used to doing and clearly he doesn't have the emotional depth to understand that his character isn't actually him this time.
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Post by scarletbegonias on Apr 2, 2017 17:07:06 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it doesn't require too much maturity to throw someone up against a tree for sex and doing so doesn't automatically equate to a "love story". I'm pretty much over Daryl's maturity issues. Daryl is maturing less like a fine wine and more like something you forgot in your refrigerator crisper drawer: you bought it because you wanted to try it, took it out a couple of times but changed your mind, and the next thing you know it was soggy, smelly and withered.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Apr 2, 2017 17:10:17 GMT -5
The thing with Norman is that his conception of who Daryl is or should be is usually at odds with Daryl's on screen characterization at any point in the show. The Daryl he talks about is not the Daryl we see on the screen.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Apr 2, 2017 17:16:45 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb and say it doesn't require too much maturity to throw someone up against a tree for sex and doing so doesn't automatically equate to a "love story". I'm pretty much over Daryl's maturity issues. Daryl is maturing less like a fine wine and more like something you forgot in your refrigerator crisper drawer: you bought it because you wanted to try it, took it out a couple of times but changed your mind, and the next thing you know it was soggy, smelly and withered. This has been an ongoing issue throughout the series, I think, and part of the reason NR gets so much criticism. He just doesn't appear to define "love" and "relationship" in quite the same way as most people do. What he talks about when discussing these concepts are what most people talk about when they mean "hookup" or "just sex". When an interviewer poses a question to Norman about love or relationships, they are starting from a point of not even talking about the same thing. So obviously this leads to problems.
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Post by deadhead on Apr 2, 2017 19:03:15 GMT -5
LOL, but I certainly appreciate this author immediately following his laughable manbaby comment with divulging his RL age. Just in case fangirls start to think anything he says might have any relevance.
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Post by Meggo358 on Apr 4, 2017 13:57:18 GMT -5
There is something really sad about a 50 year old man not being mature enough to date. Maybe when he hits his 70s.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Apr 4, 2017 14:07:14 GMT -5
And people ask how I can be a fan of Daryl and not Norman.
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Post by AlienSoul on Apr 4, 2017 16:03:14 GMT -5
The thing with Norman is that his conception of who Daryl is or should be is usually at odds with Daryl's on screen characterization at any point in the show. The Daryl he talks about is not the Daryl we see on the screen. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it doesn't require too much maturity to throw someone up against a tree for sex and doing so doesn't automatically equate to a "love story". I'm pretty much over Daryl's maturity issues. Daryl is maturing less like a fine wine and more like something you forgot in your refrigerator crisper drawer: you bought it because you wanted to try it, took it out a couple of times but changed your mind, and the next thing you know it was soggy, smelly and withered. This has been an ongoing issue throughout the series, I think, and part of the reason NR gets so much criticism. He just doesn't appear to define "love" and "relationship" in quite the same way as most people do. What he talks about when discussing these concepts are what most people talk about when they mean "hookup" or "just sex". When an interviewer poses a question to Norman about love or relationships, they are starting from a point of not even talking about the same thing. So obviously this leads to problems. 100% agreed. (And sorry for spamming your alerts. You just make some really great points.) They need to start getting someone like Andy or Melissa or Lennie to write scripts for NR to use when he does TWD interviews. He can be a thoughtless manchild all he wants but in interviews where he is supposed to give insight into his character, he should at least think about what he's going to say. But instead he just seems to blabber the first coherent thought that pops into his head. "Oh I know, I'll talk about throwing people against trees, I haven't done that one in a few months." Even though I don't think NR and his childishness has any impact on what Gimple and Co. have planned for Daryl in the future (because as we all know, Gimple doesn't listen to a whole lot of people ), hearing NR talk like this, making the fact that he would just love to live through Daryl and that he wishes that Daryl was a Barney Stinson-esque stud, all the more painfully clear - well it makes me sad that Daryl isn't portrayed by someone who can do him justice, someone who understands him the way MMB understands Carol. Someone who is actually willing to breathe life into him as a character separate from themselves, rather than someone who speaks about Daryl as if he actually is Daryl, rather than someone who, if he had it his way, would have Daryl hooking up with a different (20y/o) woman every single episode. Daryl is a character who is totally different than NR in so many ways and I just wish Darabont would have chosen a mature, emotionally grown-up actor who could handle portraying a character on a long-running show, instead of an actor who just did short stints in movies, where virtually your only job is to be a "hawt stud". That's what NR is used to doing and clearly he doesn't have the emotional depth to understand that his character isn't actually him this time. While I wholeheartedly agree that I wish Norman would be more insightful about his character (like Mel, for example, who has amazing insight into her character) when it comes to certain aspects of Daryl, I also wholeheartedly disagree that Darabont should have chosen someone else to play Daryl. The role of Daryl didn't exist. It was created for Norman by Darabont. And according to Kirkman, originally he wasn't going to live past the very same episode he was introduced in but they changed their minds. Daryl wouldn't have been Daryl without Norman or likely even alive today if it weren't for Norman. (An idea I'm sure some fans love). He's been praised many times by TPTB for being such a huge part of shaping Daryl into a fully-fledged character with the many characterizations fans associate him with and which they are so fond of. While I think he is at least partly responsible for some aspects of Daryl over the years I'm not fond of, for me, personally, the good far outweighs the bad. And as greaterpursuit pointed out, the stupid things Norman so often says rarely match what we see on-screen. That said, this interview pissed me off and I do think Daryl deserves much more insight than what Norman has to offer sometimes. Especially regarding his maturity and love life. I do love Norman, but when he gives answers like this, I get so disappointed and frustrated. I've seen him give mature and insightful answers in interviews, so I think he's capable of them, but this usually only happens in lengthy one-on-one interviews. A lot of the time, he doesn't seem to bother to say more than, again as greaterpursuit said, the first coherent thought that comes to him. I guess he can't give good answers about love and romantic relationships for Daryl when he sucks at those things himself.
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