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Post by buttercup on Mar 7, 2017 14:29:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry -- I really didn't intend to call you a hypocrite. My issue is actually with the torrent of Tumblr... whatever that was-in... over YNB's words, as well as a few to me particularly harsh, unreasonable tweets, because I personally think that jumping to make her responsible for anyone's taking a comment about Daryl's portrayal and extrapolating that such that they can make ageist remarks about MMB is unfair. The person making the giant leap to the ageist comment is the one responsible. Here, we have a word used specifically about Carol, and it's a word that many could very readily associate with older age. My point really was just that there's a disconnect if this word and its initial user aren't treated as problematic despite how "retirement" can be interpreted by those wanting to interpret it that way when words that related to NR's portrayal of Daryl, not to Carol's age at all, and their user are. I can see where you're coming from. I think there can be some over-defensiveness when it comes to NR's statements. There is a tendency to quote the ABC shippers instead of his original words. ABC shippers (including the one who shall not be named) like to cherry-pick through his comments and twist the words to promote their POV. A lot of what NR has said over the years, is fairly innocuous, but because of the interpretations and the way it gets relayed by some ABC shippers in a game of "Tumblr telephone", NR gets unfairly tagged with being "anti-Caryl' when we really don't know his opinions and anyway it doesn't matter. As for YNB, I'm not a fan, but I also don't think she's really relevant either. She clarified her words, and I think that was fine. Now her claims about "starting the Caryl ship" LMAO and :rolleyes: Yeah, I don't know why she is so adamant about holding on to that claim of founding the Caryl ship. Unless she knows something we don't!!!! Oh, I just made myself excited. lol.
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Post by Rosie on Mar 7, 2017 15:00:11 GMT -5
Loved the article. Never once thought about 'retirement' as ageism.
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Post by scarletbegonias on Mar 7, 2017 15:49:24 GMT -5
She can unretire just like Michael Jordan in 1995.."I'm back."
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Post by booksrbetter on Mar 7, 2017 16:17:06 GMT -5
I founded the Caryl ship when Daryl tried to reassure Carol that they would find Sophia. It was in the woods not far from the traffic blockage. When did you start your Caryl ship? Seriously, it is a non issue with me. I watched Say Yes (to the Dress?) on dvr so it didn't take long. Lots of Richonne and killing walkers . Then a dose of Rositia and Sasha deciding that they want to die because Abe is dead. Needless to say I was fairly bored but then the preview came on and we saw Carol wiping up the local walker population on her way to the Kingdom. It was a real thrill and I will watch it on Sunday night instead of on the dvr. Ageism exists and the older one gets the more you see it. That's true of sexism and racism.... if it directly impacts your life you start seeing it. MMB has been dealing with it since season two when it became obvious that Caryl was a real thing. No one should listen to anything NR says. Just makes life easier.
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Post by nana on Mar 7, 2017 17:01:56 GMT -5
I thought it was a good title.....
And I would love to see Daryl with some gray in his hair.
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Post by cunningstunt on Mar 8, 2017 1:26:52 GMT -5
I'm just so excited to see Carol back. She just makes the show for me. Daryl should definitely have some grey in his hair. It just looks silly.
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Post by nana on Mar 8, 2017 8:36:43 GMT -5
It would reinforce the middle aged couple thing that I am all about.
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