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Post by Rosie on May 9, 2017 22:53:52 GMT -5
"I was still thinking about his blowup on the stand this morning, and that's what you want from a show. You want it to stay with you."Well said greaterpursuit
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Post by dark sister on May 12, 2017 8:19:15 GMT -5
This episode was my favorite of the season. I loved seeing Chuck dig his own grave.
And Huell!!
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Post by dark sister on May 23, 2017 8:52:47 GMT -5
Jimmy was savage in that insurance office last night.
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Post by greaterpursuit on May 23, 2017 17:08:52 GMT -5
Not sure how I feel about last night's episode. It's going to require a deft touch to write Jimmy's descent without losing his characteristic charm and humor.
But any episode featuring Tamara Tunie is a win. I've loved her since her days Law & Order: SVU. Mike can use a female friend (or more, who knows?)
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Post by Rosie on Jun 7, 2017 13:35:10 GMT -5
Season 3 is almost over. Only two more episodes and no renewal announcement yet. O_o
Monday night's episode - "Slip"
Slippin Jimmy - Jimmy McGill - Saul Goodman metamorphosis is a slow tease.
Nacho slipping those altered capsules into Hector's pocket was tense.
Mike slipping into an arrangement with Gus Fring.
Kim's encounter with Howard was awesome! You go girl!
I can't say enough about Vince Gilligan.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 7, 2017 16:38:18 GMT -5
It was a good episode and I enjoyed it but it felt a little bit like filler. The Nacho subplot moved the story along but I'm not especially invested in that arc.
Not enough Kim onscreen. She really brings class to this show.
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Post by Rosie on Jun 13, 2017 10:09:46 GMT -5
Lots going on in last night's episode. www.avclub.com/tvclub/everybodys-fighting-wheel-better-call-saul-barrels-256685Hector did not die! What! I agree with this reviewer who said we're probably not done with the poisoned pills. The scene with Nacho and his father broke my heart. "Jimmy is leaking empathy like his Subaru probably leaks oil, faster and faster as the season nears its end. The cruelty of what he does to Irene takes my breath away. Peeling off an old lady’s friends, the last things she has in her sunset years, without a whisper of hesitation. Manipulating her as a tool by positioning himself as the only friend she has left. And for the simplest and most crass of reasons: He needs the money."
This scene also broke my heart.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 13, 2017 17:57:15 GMT -5
Obviously we know where Jimmy's story is going, but I was hoping they'd stretch out Jimmy as decent guy just trying to make a buck for at least a little longer. Jimmy manipulates, but nothing quite like what he did to that elderly lady.
And poor Kim. Trying to do too much on her own, I think.
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Post by Rosie on Jun 19, 2017 23:24:46 GMT -5
"Lantern" Season 3 Finale - what did you think?
The entire time Gus is trying to revive Hector - I'm screaming "why are you doing that".
Thank God for Vince Gilligan who explains. Gus wants to exact his own revenge on Hector in due time.
I think Gus knew Nacho was responsible for Hector's collapse. Gus gave Nacho the 'side eye'.
Chuck really went off the rails. I think he meant what he said to Jimmy.
Thoughts?
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Post by Rosie on Jun 20, 2017 17:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 20, 2017 17:23:49 GMT -5
The lantern theme was really well done. It seems that Chuck has met his maker but you never know. Can you imagine Jimmy losing Chuck in this way after Chuck telling him he never mattered much to him? I can't imagine there won't be a season four. This is an excellent show.
This show seems to cast actors that really get into their roles. Watching TTD, I was completely drawn in by the actor who plays Howard. He was discussing Chuck's betrayal as if Chuck had personally betrayed him! He got so into the story.
As compelling as the Jimmy/Chuck story is, I'm really curious as to what will happen to Kim.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 20, 2017 17:25:06 GMT -5
Great finale! I'm sure AMC will renew-FTWD despite low ratings has been renewed fir a 4th season already. Plus BCS gets awards nominations. Fingers crossed. I'll be sweating it until I see it lol. "...Then the departure down the steps, Chuck goes through at least 10 emotional beats between the top step and stepping out into the light. What were you/Chuck working through in that sequence? I just made up my mind about every face I saw, so it wasn't just like, "He says good-bye to the crowd." I made up little stories for what each of those people was or what I could imagine. It didn't have to be too elaborate. It's like, "Yeah, he's the guy and I gave him that thing and I gave him the wrong..." It doesn't have to be all that elaborate. You know that if you spend any time anywhere and you get to know everybody and you pretty much have everybody's name, even before you have their name, there's something in their faces where you say, "Oh, right. And your husband is..." All those things. To say good-bye to them as individuals and not as a crowd was all I cared about. As far as what Chuck was doing, he was getting out of there in probably the worst way. It was a walk of shame even though nobody was shaming him in that hall. It's very interesting..." www.hollywoodreporter.com/fien-print/better-call-saul-michael-mckean-season-finale-1015251
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Post by Ripley on Jun 20, 2017 17:25:10 GMT -5
Great finale! I'm sure AMC will renew-FTWD despite low ratings has been renewed fir a 4th season already. Plus BCS gets awards nominations. Fingers crossed. I'll be sweating it until I see it lol. "...Then the departure down the steps, Chuck goes through at least 10 emotional beats between the top step and stepping out into the light. What were you/Chuck working through in that sequence? I just made up my mind about every face I saw, so it wasn't just like, "He says good-bye to the crowd." I made up little stories for what each of those people was or what I could imagine. It didn't have to be too elaborate. It's like, "Yeah, he's the guy and I gave him that thing and I gave him the wrong..." It doesn't have to be all that elaborate. You know that if you spend any time anywhere and you get to know everybody and you pretty much have everybody's name, even before you have their name, there's something in their faces where you say, "Oh, right. And your husband is..." All those things. To say good-bye to them as individuals and not as a crowd was all I cared about. As far as what Chuck was doing, he was getting out of there in probably the worst way. It was a walk of shame even though nobody was shaming him in that hall. It's very interesting..." www.hollywoodreporter.com/fien-print/better-call-saul-michael-mckean-season-finale-1015251
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 20, 2017 17:27:42 GMT -5
"If he does not win an Emmy for this, there is no God. " Definitely agree with this. Michael McKean is just superb in this role, so much so that you could choose any number of scenes for his Emmy reel. Come Emmy nomination time, I'm pulling for him.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2017 11:25:00 GMT -5
Me too greaterpursuit. Bob Odenkirk too. I think he gets overlooked at times with McKean and Esposito and Banks. I also like Rhea Seehorn and worry that she may end up somehow getting killed due to Jimmy/Saul in the future.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 21, 2017 12:42:43 GMT -5
Me too greaterpursuit . Bob Odenkirk too. I think he gets overlooked at times with McKean and Esposito and Banks. I also like Rhea Seehorn and worry that she may end up somehow getting killed due to Jimmy/Saul in the future. Killed, or in trouble, or publicly humiliated, probably. The writers could be really different and create an ending for Kim that is a positive outcome for her but doesn't involve Jimmy. Sometimes people grow apart. We know she was not part of Jimmy's life in Breaking Bad. It doesn't have to involve something gruesome or grisly. But it probably will.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2017 12:52:31 GMT -5
Me too greaterpursuit . Bob Odenkirk too. I think he gets overlooked at times with McKean and Esposito and Banks. I also like Rhea Seehorn and worry that she may end up somehow getting killed due to Jimmy/Saul in the future. Killed, or in trouble, or publicly humiliated, probably. The writers could be really different and create an ending for Kim that is a positive outcome for her but doesn't involve Jimmy. Sometimes people grow apart. We know she was not part of Jimmy's life in Breaking Bad. It doesn't have to involve something gruesome or grisly. But it probably will. Kim getting a fantastic job and moving out of Jimmy's life would be a wonderful exit for the character on the show and I hope for that. Jimmy losing Chuck, despite all of Chuck's poor treatment and manipulation of him, still is a huge loss for him, so Kim would be the only other person with whom he is closest. AS Kimmy evolves into Saul, I see him as likely cutting those emotional ties and we know he ends up with the secretary when he is Saul Goodman on BB. Perhaps Kim's loss or her choice of leaving him, by choosing to follow the straight path despite the temptations of Jimmy's natural tendencies to hustle everyone with all a potential mark, might be the final straw pushing Jimmy into Saul.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 21, 2017 13:11:25 GMT -5
Killed, or in trouble, or publicly humiliated, probably. The writers could be really different and create an ending for Kim that is a positive outcome for her but doesn't involve Jimmy. Sometimes people grow apart. We know she was not part of Jimmy's life in Breaking Bad. It doesn't have to involve something gruesome or grisly. But it probably will. Perhaps Kim's loss or her choice of leaving him, by choosing to follow the straight path despite the temptations of Jimmy's natural tendencies to hustle everyone with all a potential mark, might be the final straw pushing Jimmy into Saul. I'm hoping for something like this, but if they go in this direction, I hope they write it in a way that doesn't seem like Kim is abandoning him. Maybe it will be more like "a final straw" moment where she realizes that staying with him would enable him as he changes into "Saul". I'd really like to see Kim leave the show on her own terms, head held high.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 21, 2017 13:23:13 GMT -5
That is what I want for Kim and we have already seen her getting more confident and stronger. When she did the lunch thing with Howard, that was a huge step for her given her mailroom beginnings plus the firm paying her lw school debts or tuition greaterpursuit Her choice to cut off Jimmy to finish up before the meeting was also a big change - taking care of herself and not getting sidetracked by Jimmy and his news. The wreck and lack of sleep = no bueno, but Kim is doing well and earning her success instead of hustling for it as Jimmy is now doing. I want her walking out confidently, head held high and on the path of career and personal successes.
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Post by dark sister on Jun 22, 2017 8:15:43 GMT -5
I'm terrified of what could happen to Kim, I just hope it's something positive and not career ruining for her. I do think it's curious that she's from Nebraska, and that's where Saul gets sent at the end of Breaking Bad. Perhaps the final scene of the show will be of them crossing paths in the present.
This season has really made me fall in love with Nacho more. It'll be interesting to see where his story goes now that Fring is on to him.
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Post by Rosie on Jun 23, 2017 12:10:26 GMT -5
I'm terrified of what could happen to Kim, I just hope it's something positive and not career ruining for her. I do think it's curious that she's from Nebraska, and that's where Saul gets sent at the end of Breaking Bad. Perhaps the final scene of the show will be of them crossing paths in the present. This season has really made me fall in love with Nacho more. It'll be interesting to see where his story goes now that Fring is on to him.I feel the same way about Nacho. Vince Gilligan said (I can't remember where I saw/heard this) that Kim could have still been with Jimmy after he changed completely into Saul - just because we didn't see her in BB doesn't mean she wasn't with him. I'm taking this as one of his tongue in cheek comments. His eyes did that 'twinkle' thing when he made that comment.
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Post by dark sister on Jun 23, 2017 13:23:40 GMT -5
I'm in the "protect Nacho at all costs" camp lol.
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Post by Rosie on Jun 23, 2017 19:10:22 GMT -5
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 23, 2017 20:14:59 GMT -5
Wow, really indepth article. Wouldn't it be great if they could all be like this? I love the way Bob thinks about his character and can express his thoughts intelligently.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Jun 24, 2017 13:40:59 GMT -5
I'm in the "protect Nacho at all costs" camp lol. I'm liking Nacho but I'm not really invested in the entire "drug cartel" subplot. I realize that it was of critical importance in Breaking Bad and we're watching the evolution of Jimmy's character but it's really the relationship between Jimmy/Kim and Jimmy/Chuck that has kept me invested in the show. We know one of those has likely already been severed and the other will be at some point. Once that happens, it will be interesting to see if the show can hold my interest. If it's all drug cartel all the time, I'll probably be flipping the channel.
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Post by Rosie on Jul 26, 2017 20:07:52 GMT -5
www.goldderby.com/video/bob-odenkirk-qa-better-call-saul-3/This interview was conducted before all of Season 3 was aired. Couple of snippets: Odenkirk still thinks that “once he becomes Saul there’s more story to tell. The first time you see him in ‘Breaking Bad’ he mentions Lalo and asks about Ignacio. I want to understand what that jibber jabber is about. I want to know what went down with those guys. We still have to get through those different story points. But like ‘Breaking Bad,’ I hope the pacing of the story will pace up as it gets towards the end. I think that’s going to happen. We see some fundamental movement in Season 3. Then in Seasons 4 and 5, and I’m saying maybe 5, the dominoes are gonna fall faster.”
He also gives a reminder that “Jimmy’s life isn’t over with Saul. He then becomes Gene.” This refers to the black-and-white scenes that have opened every season of “Better Call Saul.” They show a post-“Breaking Bad” Jimmy living under the alias Gene and working in an Omaha Cinnabon. He adds, “While he’s hiding there and still alive, he’s got plenty of time to think about the choices he made. He can maybe make different choices and become another version of himself. That’s what I hope happens. It would be cool if he came to some realizations that would allow him to live and not hide.”
I've been thinking along these lines for awhile now. Gilligan et al could enter completely uncharted territory and keep Odenkirk busy for quite awhile.
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