Kitsune
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"I will knock you the fuck out if you ever take up smoking." -My friend who's a smoker
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Post by Kitsune on Jun 24, 2016 19:31:45 GMT -5
If I ever watch Slabtown again, I'm going to need beer. Lots and lots of beer. This is coming from somebody that doesn't drink.
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Post by v on Jun 24, 2016 21:12:29 GMT -5
I can't believe I forgot, Arrow on the Doorpost. Except for a little homoerotic headcanon between Daryl and Martinez, it was a snoozefest. I liked the Martinez parts but I do love my Martinez. LOL (and no not for the homoerotica ) but the Rick/Gov parts? gods that was bad! I thought Rick was drugged at first. One of the very few times I found AL to be cringe worthy as an actor. (there has only been 3 or 4 times I felt that way)
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Post by candyp on Jun 26, 2016 14:56:49 GMT -5
5b and most of season 6......the hubby and I have committed this summer to rewatching TWD from the beginning. We haven't done that in almost three years now. I have watched seasons 1-3 at least 12 times....season 4 a total of four times....season 5 three times....I am realizing just now how much my interest has waned over the last two years. This makes me sad, as I WANT to love this show like I use to. The last story arc I was really into was Terminus and that was so short changed. I really need to rewatch seasons 1-3 (especially my all time fav season 2) to remind myself WHY I hang in there.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jun 27, 2016 17:47:19 GMT -5
I do wish Terminus had at least one more episode but then again maybe tptb would've messed it up. They do have trouble with pacing and when to end things and when to let a story breathe a little longer.
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Post by Meggo358 on Jun 28, 2016 0:48:24 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Sexual Chocolate - but it was already such strange pacing with 5b seemingly leading up to terminus and then - whoop - it's over. I suppose anything else, however, would have diluted No Sanctuary, which was a pretty perfect episode.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jun 28, 2016 1:05:04 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Sexual Chocolate - but it was already such strange pacing with 5b seemingly leading up to terminus and then - whoop - it's over. I suppose anything else, however, would have diluted No Sanctuary, which was a pretty perfect episode. It was a pretty perfect episode. I was talking to Ripley the other day and she came up with a perfect addition to the Terminus arc. Beth would have ended up on one of those slabs, but it would be known only to us, the audience. TF would never know what happened to her. It would've tied in to Daryl's comment, "She's just gone."
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Post by Meggo358 on Jun 28, 2016 8:23:07 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Sexual Chocolate - but it was already such strange pacing with 5b seemingly leading up to terminus and then - whoop - it's over. I suppose anything else, however, would have diluted No Sanctuary, which was a pretty perfect episode. It was a pretty perfect episode. I was talking to Ripley the other day and she came up with a perfect addition to the Terminus arc. Beth would have ended up on one of those slabs, but it would be known only to us, the audience. TF would never know what happened to her. It would've tied in to Daryl's comment, "She's just gone." That would have been a wonderful way to increase the scale of horror in terminus while saving the show from another terrible, momentum killing storyline (Grady arc, obviously) - if that reveal had been made in the finale of season 4 when they arrived at terminus it would probably have been even better.
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Post by v on Jun 28, 2016 10:18:47 GMT -5
It was a pretty perfect episode. I was talking to Ripley the other day and she came up with a perfect addition to the Terminus arc. Beth would have ended up on one of those slabs, but it would be known only to us, the audience. TF would never know what happened to her. It would've tied in to Daryl's comment, "She's just gone." That would have been a wonderful way to increase the scale of horror in terminus while saving the show from another terrible, momentum killing storyline (Grady arc, obviously) - if that reveal had been made in the finale of season 4 when they arrived at terminus it would probably have been even better. don't make me pull out all the "this beth is undercooked" memes lol If they hadn't needed her to bring in Noah to get them to Virginia then yeah... this would have been perfect! (I would have preferred it over the grady eps but then I would have missed the epic shoulder pat reunion of true luv)
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Post by dark sister on Jun 28, 2016 10:28:46 GMT -5
That would have been a wonderful way to increase the scale of horror in terminus while saving the show from another terrible, momentum killing storyline (Grady arc, obviously) - if that reveal had been made in the finale of season 4 when they arrived at terminus it would probably have been even better. don't make me pull out all the "this beth is undercooked" memes lol If they hadn't needed her to bring in Noah to get them to Virginia then yeah... this would have been perfect! (I would have preferred it over the grady eps but then I would have missed the epic shoulder pat reunion of true luv) You didn't vomit rainbows at that sight?
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Post by v on Jun 28, 2016 10:34:13 GMT -5
I thought it summed up the relationship perfectly
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Post by Meggo358 on Jun 28, 2016 11:09:37 GMT -5
That would have been a wonderful way to increase the scale of horror in terminus while saving the show from another terrible, momentum killing storyline (Grady arc, obviously) - if that reveal had been made in the finale of season 4 when they arrived at terminus it would probably have been even better. don't make me pull out all the "this beth is undercooked" memes lol If they hadn't needed her to bring in Noah to get them to Virginia then yeah... this would have been perfect! (I would have preferred it over the grady eps but then I would have missed the epic shoulder pat reunion of true luv) The shoulder pat was probably the most realistic and natural part of the Daryl/Beth dynamic. I agree that would have been an unfortunate thing to miss (especially when contrasted with the Beth/Noah reunion...that was sincerely sweet).
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Post by v on Jun 28, 2016 11:13:16 GMT -5
I also enjoyed the Rick Beth reunion. But yeah, that boah reunion had me almost liking Beth again
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Post by Ripley on Jun 28, 2016 11:34:00 GMT -5
They could have found Noah anywhere, honestly. What mattered was that they found him and he led them to NoVa.
I envisioned the perfect ending to Beth's story as while Rick & Co are herded through Terminus in 'A', they run past a closed door, which opens after they are out of frame. Beth lies on a metal table with a sheet pulled up to her chest. A man moves into frame crissing our view of her body, dressed in a waterproof apron starts sharpening a large knife and camera moves on to catch up with Rick's group.
It tells the audience what happened to Beth-all that is needed to be known, it ties in with Team Family by happening in the same place and time. It would have been the first time TF didn't know what happened to one of their own, aka "she's gone" and everything in between Alone and A would have remained a mystery.
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Post by urdeadtome on Jun 28, 2016 12:23:02 GMT -5
Anything that gave Beth more than 2 lines of dialogue. The Governor episodes. Self-help Now Most of season 6 Amen! Yea I can't think of a specific list right now but pretty much the entire Grady arc in S5. Those are hours of my life I can never get back and it still pisses me the hell off! >
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jun 29, 2016 13:22:46 GMT -5
Always Accountable.
Absolutely some of the laziest shit ever to grace the tv screen. Dwight and Co. kidnap Daryl and then proceeds to tell their life stories as they drag him captive through the woods. It is the antithesis of 'show don't tell' and then on top of it check out how this fool dies
The entire episode was the equivalent of some of the worse fan fiction out there.
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Post by Starlight on Jun 29, 2016 16:25:44 GMT -5
ETA: My major problem with this is that I honestly think the writers continue to write the subsequent episodes as if things didn't end up on the cutting room floor. So everything still makes sense to them but leave the GA confused as fuck. The writers are writing for themselves they aren't writing for the GA / Fans... that's why there is so much ambiguous shit on the screen. And why people have to watch TTD to fill in the blanks.
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Post by urdeadtome on Jun 30, 2016 12:36:18 GMT -5
Always Accountable. Absolutely some of the laziest shit ever to grace the tv screen. Dwight and Co. kidnap Daryl and then proceeds to tell their life stories as they drag him captive through the woods. It is the antithesis of 'show don't tell' and then on top of it check out how this fool dies The entire episode was the equivalent of some of the worse fan fiction out there. Yep! Again, more time out of our lives we can just kiss goodbye forever!
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Post by v on Jul 1, 2016 0:33:09 GMT -5
Always Accountable. Absolutely some of the laziest shit ever to grace the tv screen. Dwight and Co. kidnap Daryl and then proceeds to tell their life stories as they drag him captive through the woods. It is the antithesis of 'show don't tell' and then on top of it check out how this fool dies The entire episode was the equivalent of some of the worse fan fiction out there. I didn't make it past the first 10 minutes or so before I turned it off.
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Post by weeds_or_wildflowers on Mar 4, 2017 5:28:46 GMT -5
For me worst began in the season 4, but in some episodes 2A was boring for me a little, But in season 3 some episodes were also unsuccessful. Episodes that aren't liked or were boring: Secrets Prey (i hate that all that happened with Andrea in the end of season 3) 30 Days Without an Incident (in this ep. i first feel that something changed to bad side, but then I couldn't indicate what. And yes - Daryl began to deteriorate from this episode) StillAlone (i hate previous episode, but not like these. just one part i liked from - about Bob and Sasha) Crossed (peaceful Daryl is awful and unbelievable to me. And it's ep. was boring) Coda (listen, i'm not Beth fan, but her death was awful and disrespectful to her fans. And I still think ep. was constructed silly and inconsistent) TryNow wtf was this? (one part i liked in ep. were between Maggie and Aaron) Heads Up WTF Start to Finish WTF Twice as Far WTF WTF WTF after this ep. I understood TWD will never be as good as the season 1-3 The Day Will Come When You Won't Be i really don't understand why people love this episode The Well
it was boring. I yawned very often Sing Me a SongRock in the Road episode was not so bad at all time but as for MSP for now this episode is worst
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Post by gia on Mar 4, 2017 11:54:30 GMT -5
I totally agree with you Kitsune. There were other episodes I didn't like as much(eg...Still) but Slabtown was the only episode it didn't even seem like I was watching the right show. It was just a terrible show and I kept turning to those I was watching with and asking if I was the only one who hated it that much? I have never watched it a second time and can't imagine I ever will. Seeing where that whole arc went and how quickly it got wrapped up, scratching my head all the more. The thing that makes me hate it so much looking back, was that the whole Grady storyline actually had POTENTIAL. I thought the way they had Beth wake up in that hospital to mirror Rick's waking up from his coma, was such a cool idea. And I liked the idea of creepy-cops and Psycho Dawn and the Hospital of Terror, but it was never quite fully and properly developed. And then to just wrap it up with Beth's stupid death, Dawn's stupid death, and then Noah's stupid death a few episodes later really just make me think, what was the purpose of any of that?
If they had expanded the storyline, and had more TF members interact with Dawn and deal with Grady, it would have been more satisfying. I think Dawn and Rick would have had REALLY interesting scenes. I think the audience forgets Rick was Officer Friendly once upon a time. Why couldn't Rick have been captured as well? Give TF members the chance to figure out how to deal with a Big Bad without their leader, for once. I actually thought Grady had more storyline potential than Terminus, but then it was resolved just as quickly. And to no effect. UGH. Gimple is trapped by his obsessed with re-inventing the show every 8 episodes. I thought having Beth wake up like Rick was horrible. Beth wasn't a main character, she was a redshirt and was played by a horrible actress who should not have had bottle episodes to herself. Rick and Dawn would have been more interesting, I agree. Maybe Rick could have been in Beth's place, waking up in Grady. And Beth should have died back at the prison. One of my favorite images of her waking up was when she was waiting for whomever was going to come in the door, holding the tubing up as a weapon. The tubing that was connected to a large metal pole. A large metal pole, Beth. Maybe your choice of weapon there was a premonition of your death wielding tiny ineffective scissors. Still and Alone were God-awful, for obvious reasons. Anything Grady was bad as well. More time should have been spent with Terminus instead. Gareth was a damned good villain.
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Post by gia on Mar 4, 2017 11:56:41 GMT -5
I liked almost all of 4B, but "Claimed" had what I think is still one of the most cringe-y moments in TWD: "Coda" and "Them" were awful. It's like all the characters suddenly got dumb. Then the show REALLY started sliding once we got on the road to ASZ... But, without a doubt, most of my least favorite episodes can be found in Season 6. Especially "JSS," "Always Accountable," "No Way Out" and "The Next World." It's the first time the show was CONSISTENTLY bad, as opposed to intermittently bad, or overall good with just some bad scenes. The entire "we need to move this random herd" storyline, and the Andersons, the character of Enid, Dumpstergate...God, I think I hated 90% of S6. I did enjoy "Same Boat" and the acting in "Here's Not Here" and the finale (once Negan arrived). But from a pacing, plotting, character development perspective, almost everything in Season 6 was pretty much garbage juice. I thought that scene was funny. But then I liked Michonne bonding with Carl, especially after seeing that she had lost her son.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Mar 4, 2017 14:44:20 GMT -5
gia your large metal pole comment has me Beth was too stupid to live and obviously the writers felt the same. Large metal pole.
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Post by gia on Mar 4, 2017 15:47:15 GMT -5
gia your large metal pole comment has me Beth was too stupid to live and obviously the writers felt the same. Large metal pole. (rofl) I think Beth was a major cause of some of the deep WTF lines between my eyes.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Mar 4, 2017 19:41:42 GMT -5
We all have them, what are the worst episodes of the show for you? Still Alone Slabtown Live Bait Dead Weight. This would likely be my list as well, though the Bob/Sasha/Maggie scenes in Alone weren't bad. I think I may have liked the Governor episodes a bit if they had cast someone else as Tara's sister (whose name I don't recall). I found her and the Governor completely unbelievable as a couple. The little actress who played Meghan was the only bright spot in those episodes.
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Post by Ripley on Mar 8, 2017 14:22:06 GMT -5
I felt the Grady episodes would have been better split up with 1-2 scenes per episode instead of almost 3 episodes devoted to Beth flinging people down elevator shafts and suddenly realizing her murder superpowers despite tubing and metal poles/ I think spreading the Grady arc out that way would have fed it to viewers and had them possibly curious as well as not breaking the continuity of events within Rick's group. I remember "Walk With Me" because it was the first episode I watched that made me think WTF in the middle of the episode. I liked Andrea and Michonne together, liked Merle and all the problems he brought as his baggage. I was prepared to like Woodbury, but the episode failed for me despite all of those aspects I liked. I remember saying to a co-watcher- what has happened to the show we love?" for the first time. It felt cobbled together last minute and jumbled storylines in trying to weave together new characters and plotlines. I wanted to like it but could not. It crushed the season 3 momentum between episodes 2-4 and just failed for me although I know many love that episodes for reasons. Prey also failed for me- did not feel Hitchcockian (I love Hitchcock films) at all for me- just boring. I ended up playing solitare on my phone every time I watched it because the chase through the warehouse could not keep my attention. Terminus arc- so much buildup starting in 4-A only to have one full episode (2 halves of 2 episodes) and felt like a waste of the build up and speculation time. Who else remembers all the time we spent analyzing that one promo photo of Michonne never used in the room with the candles and all the writing on the floor and walls? I do. In the end, Terminus didn't feel "earned" as Sexual Chocolate might say, it felt cheaply gifted and not a payoff equal to all the buildup, which is a common end to plotlines on the show, sadly.
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Post by ceissamed on Mar 30, 2017 16:46:23 GMT -5
no doubt, the worst was the season 6 but the 7 only liked the episode 10.
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