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Post by candi18z on Apr 23, 2016 3:36:06 GMT -5
When discussing the season finale and who got Lucilled, several TWD fan bloggers stated that it cannot be Daryl because he is the heart of TWD. They said he is the single most important character on the show, and that the show cannot survive without him. They said that all of TWD's other character's are expendable except Daryl.
Is Daryl really that important, or are his fans exaggerating his importance to TWD?
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Post by v on Apr 23, 2016 3:49:19 GMT -5
for many fans he is the most important part of the show (Mines Carol, Glenn and Michonne) but over all I say it's Rick and Carl. So yes, I feel his fans over exaggerate his importance to twd, no doubt he is very popular and NR works his butt off promoting the show but that does not equal the importance of the one and only LEAD actor/Character... Rick Grimes.
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Post by Meggo358 on Apr 23, 2016 8:52:55 GMT -5
Daryl is still very popular - he generated a lot of goodwill in earlier seasons that has remained intact. I'd say he's still very important in terms of the show using him as the shows "mascot" and for promotional purposes. Story wise he's no more relevant or impactful than Maggie or Eugene, imo.
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Post by lesmicelli on Apr 23, 2016 9:50:56 GMT -5
When discussing the season finale and who got Lucilled, several TWD fan bloggers stated that it cannot be Daryl because he is the heart of TWD. They said he is the single most important character on the show, and that the show cannot survive without him. They said that all of TWD's other character's are expendable except Daryl. Is Daryl really that important, or are his fans exaggerating his importance to TWD? Yikes, wow at those comments lol Daryl is one of 3 of my favorite characters and while I understand that Daryl is hugely popular and gets the loudest reaction at appearances by fans, I think the Atlanta 5 plus Maggie and Michonne in general are all important for the show. I personally think of Glenn as the heart of TWD but I'm speaking for me. I think there are many characters that would change the feel of the show if they died but there's no doubt the show without Daryl, they'd just stick even closer to the comic stories. He'd take a large portion of fans with him but not just necessarily because he's that important for the show story wise. Some fans might be like me and feel fed up with the storytelling and only watching because they're invested in their favorite character/s. Daryl might be the reason some people are even bothering to still watch so if he died, those fans would just not have any reason to tune in anymore. I'm all over the place but I hope this makes sense. Making french toast and posting is making it more difficult for my brain cells to be coherent
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Post by honkytonkwoman on Apr 23, 2016 11:43:06 GMT -5
Daryl is still very popular - he generated a lot of goodwill in earlier seasons that has remained intact. I'd say he's still very important in terms of the show using him as the shows "mascot" and for promotional purposes. Story wise he's no more relevant or impactful than Maggie or Eugene, imo. Mascot is a good word
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Apr 23, 2016 16:51:01 GMT -5
I think he's the most important character to AMC. He's a huge money maker for them and I don't see them willing to give up this steady stream of revenue anytime soon. Of all the cast, NR must have the easiest time during contract negotiations. I'm surprised AMC doesn't park a Brinks truck outside Norman's home with a note pinned to the stacks of cash that reads, "There's more where this came from. See you on set."
To me, the most important character is Rick because ultimately it's his story, but I honestly believe they could kill off Rick, move Daryl into the leadership role, and the ratings would still be over 10 million.
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Post by nana on Apr 23, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -5
Not the most important, but he definitely pulls me in when he is on screen. Carol does that, too, as well as Glenn and Rick.
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Post by dark sister on Apr 23, 2016 20:00:03 GMT -5
Daryl is very popular, but he's the heart of the show to his fangirls only. The true heart of this show is Rick and only Rick.
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Post by v on Apr 23, 2016 21:26:43 GMT -5
When discussing the season finale and who got Lucilled, several TWD fan bloggers stated that it cannot be Daryl because he is the heart of TWD. They said he is the single most important character on the show, and that the show cannot survive without him. They said that all of TWD's other character's are expendable except Daryl. Is Daryl really that important, or are his fans exaggerating his importance to TWD? Yikes, wow at those comments lol Daryl is one of 3 of my favorite characters and while I understand that Daryl is hugely popular and gets the loudest reaction at appearances by fans, I think the Atlanta 5 plus Maggie and Michonne in general are all important for the show. I personally think of Glenn as the heart of TWD but I'm speaking for me. I think there are many characters that would change the feel of the show if they died but there's no doubt the show without Daryl, they'd just stick even closer to the comic stories. He'd take a large portion of fans with him but not just necessarily because he's that important for the show story wise. Some fans might be like me and feel fed up with the storytelling and only watching because they're invested in their favorite character/s. Daryl might be the reason some people are even bothering to still watch so if he died, those fans would just not have any reason to tune in anymore. I'm all over the place but I hope this makes sense. Making french toast and posting is making it more difficult for my brain cells to be coherent my top five favorite characters ( in order) are Carol, Glenn, Michonne, Rick and number 5 rotates depending on my mood... right now it's Morgan ( Yes I will duck and cover! and my babe Jesus is my favorite comic character). I honestly don;t think the hit to the ratings would be as bad as some think it would be. As we saw with other deaths, (and threats of leaving the show) most of those threats were on line only and didn't impact ratings, hell most of the time ratings went up! He is very popular and Norman does work his butt off promoting the show, but Rick will always be the heart IMO because he is the lead. the thing that is going to really affect ratings, isn't killing Daryl or any of the "fan favorites", its going to be the continued issues with the writing. IMO. I'm still here because of my top 5, but that is less and less of a draw when Carol gets unending suffering for a story line and Glenn and Michonne disappear for eps at a time.
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Post by booksrbetter on Apr 23, 2016 22:18:27 GMT -5
Carol and Daryl are the two most important characters to me. Glenn would be next. I don't like Rick, every time I try to like him he does something that sets my teeth on edge. Haven't liked him since the finale of season two. Maybe it is my rural background but Carol and Daryl were the two that I watched from the get go. I have always loved Glenn. It is time to end the whole Daryl is emo though.
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Post by Ripley on Apr 23, 2016 23:41:46 GMT -5
Daryl was the breakout star in the first few seasons but in later years more beloved characters have come along-some like Abe, Eugene, Negan have come among plus others not on the comic. Merle Dixon for example. So I think it is less true now than say in s 2 when the writing for Daryl was fresh and exciting. He'll always be the most important to his fans-he was originally written to be an every man men wanted to be and women wanted to date. NR does sell merchandise so I agree with Sexual Chocolate that he still draws the top $$$ and also brings fans into the Cons cruises and merchandise portals. That said, I don't think Daryl is well liked by Scott Gimple.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Apr 24, 2016 0:13:20 GMT -5
Ripley He can't be with the storyline he's been given over the last couple of seasons.
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Post by Ripley on Apr 24, 2016 0:34:23 GMT -5
I agree:) as I said, he def "was "in s 2-3 for instance but not in s 5-6 IMO. As you & I have discussed, I don't think the character is a favorite of Scott Gimple's not likely Kirkman who did not think him up nor receives $$ for Daryl. I'm sure that pains Master Kirlman to no end lol.
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Post by lesmicelli on Apr 24, 2016 0:59:01 GMT -5
Ripley, Yeah but look at how SG has written for Michonne, Carl, Maggie, as well as Daryl. Besides Michonne getting with Rick (which wasn't a good idea imo) what has she been given to do? She used to be badass. Maggie as well, besides her episode with Carol and upcoming story thanks only to the comic (possibly) but this is Gimple writing who knows how much attention she'll get if she does take her comic spot, Carl was made to hold his sister for 2 seasons. I think it's just that Scott can't write for an ensemble cast and less about not liking Daryl... although that's possibly it too lol It's also possible since Daryl was a bit more popular than Rick, maybe he figured he'd cut back on Daryl to emphasize the importance of Rick again or maybe he cut back on Daryl because there were grumblings and complaints from a group of fans saying Daryl was taking over the show? Idk but if AMC starts to care about how their cash is being written, maybe they'll fire SG With Kirkman saying he wished he thought of Daryl and then asking Norman to star in one of his other projects, he's found a way to capitalize on Norman's popularity a bit at least smh lol
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Post by booksrbetter on Apr 25, 2016 15:47:01 GMT -5
There are too many characters on the show to give out meaty roles. Michonne was a badass but putting her with Rick did her role no favors. What kind of role can you really give Carl? Honestly, the last thing I want to watch is teenage angst. There is quite a lot of it on Fear the Dead and its boring. We have Carl and his girlfriend. meh. Carl's relationship with Judith is actually his best storyline. When Carol asked him to stay in the house and take care of Judith when the wolves attacked? I knew he wasn't going to let any one come in that house and hurt his sister. I did think the scene in which Carl says that he doesn't think he should go to Hilltop (the first time) because of his disfigurement and Rick just ignores it. Lost opportunity for Carl and it made Rick look like an ass. Maggie did get a lot of screen time this year. Positive storylines too.
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Post by booksrbetter on Apr 25, 2016 15:53:24 GMT -5
Daryl is very popular, but he's the heart of the show to his fangirls only. The true heart of this show is Rick and only Rick. I'm not trying to be annoying but I don't believe that anyone character is the true heart. Rick gets lots of screentime but the true heart of the show (IMO) is the Atlanta Five + Michonne+Maggie. The true heart is how they love each other and how they changed to survive the ZA. Adding all these new characters don't add to the show. Just takes time away from the characters I care about.
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