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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Oct 30, 2016 13:58:22 GMT -5
I don't even have the energy to bitch about this. Somebody do me a solid and find comments from previous seasons I made about Norm...er...Daryl supposedly going "darker" and copy and paste them in this thread. They still apply.
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Post by dark sister on Oct 30, 2016 14:03:00 GMT -5
Do Daryl stans like the man pain? How is this still going on? Oh wait.
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Post by v on Oct 30, 2016 14:38:57 GMT -5
Thanks to the good folks who brough this to my attention elsewhere lol "Daryl actor Norman Reedus caught up with ComicBook.com for an exclusive interview regarding the weight on Daryl's shoulders after his actions triggered Glenn's death. "I think it weighs heavily on him," Reedus said. "I don't know that anybody in that group blames him for anything, but he blames himself more than anything. It really brings him down to a certain level where whatever shitty thing is thrown at him, he is just going to take it." For Daryl, who is now a prisoner of war, the events aren't being taken any sort of lightly. "He goes very, very dark," Reedus said. "He does certain things that he can't go back from. He goes to a very, very dark, dark place. It's a combination of hatred. It's a combination of self-loathing. It's different from when he first started on the show. He has a big chip on his shoulder. He thought people wouldn't like him. He didn't give a shit. He hates you, too. It turns now into he kind of hates himself. He hates the world that we're in, and he doesn't lose the fight in him, but he definitely no longer sees anything good in the world, that's for sure."..." linkI rolled my eyes at this article when I saw it. He goes "darker" and "hard core" every season and I have yet to see anything other than emo pouting. unless he is talking about the rumored {Spoiler} "daryl goes along with Richard's plan to kill someone to get Zeke to go to war.. until he finds out Richard is talking about Carol" stuff. Of course daryl is going to blame himself. in this case I would accept it as being a legit blaming (does that even make sense?). I am more worried that they are going to let Daryl's lack of real new story lines over shadow Maggie's grief. Not to mention Tara's, since she is coming home to find both her best buddy and her gf are dead and each one were in a way related to Daryl's actions. I know some really love Daryl, but I am ready for him to go honestly. Yes I want Caryl to happen but I am finding I like Daryl less and less every season and am tired of his character overshadowing other characters or taking comic arcs that should of/could of actually gone to the characters. (Ty, Glenn, Abe ect)
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Post by Starlight on Oct 30, 2016 16:32:46 GMT -5
Norman's idea of darker is Daryl probably
{Spoiler} eating dog food sandwiches lol.
Or on a most serious note. Maybe he has to kill someone in Sanctuary who is just a victim of Negan like him.
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Post by greaterpursuit on Oct 30, 2016 17:46:48 GMT -5
I don't even have the energy to bitch about this. Somebody do me a solid and find comments from previous seasons I made about Norm...er...Daryl supposedly going "darker" and copy and paste them in this thread. They still apply. Neither can I. Barely any casual viewer I've spoke to is blaming Daryl for Glenn's death. I'm hearing more "yeah, Daryl. At least someone stood up to Negan", or "Daryl just reacted, who could blame him". Mostly people are blaming Negan. He is supposed to be "the villain", I suppose, so they're blaming the villain for being villainous. Works for me, I guess. *shrug*
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Post by Mia on Oct 30, 2016 18:25:14 GMT -5
Do Daryl stans like the man pain? How is this still going on? Oh wait. As a huge Daryl fan I hate it. I want to see a new Daryl not this rinse and repeat crap.
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Post by dark sister on Oct 30, 2016 18:46:20 GMT -5
The title of this thread should be "Manpain 20.0" at this point.
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Post by nana on Oct 30, 2016 19:21:07 GMT -5
If Norman hadn't used that "darker line" in the past. I would believe him over what happened in the premiere. But he says that every season. When the only thing that gets darker is Daryl's hair and clothing. And as Daryl is the show's cash cow, I can't see them doing anything really controversial with him. They had him act like moron in the line up. And then they all came out excusing his behavior. I wouldnt be surprised if the show doesnt have maggie reassure daryl at some point in the season, pointing out what a maniac negan is and telling him hes a good guy or whatever. ...no matter what, they're not going to allow daryls actions to really affect his character in any way that seems controversial. Agreed. I think he and Maggie will have a big heart to heart.
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Post by nixnax on Jul 2, 2017 7:35:41 GMT -5
I think the reason why we're getting all this manpain is down to the abused story lines of both Daryl and carol
Season 2 we have the fallout of Sophia I was so angry at Daryl but as the story unfolds we see carol get stronger speaking up for herself deleted scene with Daryl,telling Lori not to treat her like she's lost her mind ect compared with Daryl engaging back to the group
So a set up of carol deciding not to be a victim and Daryl,s struggle not to become his dad
Season 3 different showrunner who while showing a little about Daryl,s past his scars standing up to merle the put down of walker merle being very Carol/Ed like Carol warning Beth about men like merle and the late bloomer scene he didn't delve deep in to the abuse stories
Season 4 gimple takes over we see carol taking extreme measures to make sure nobody becomes a victim of anything walkers/bad humans 4b the fall of the prison we see Daryl react similar to his season 2 but this time he ignored Beth instead of lashing out so one step forward then triggered by teenage snark and fuelled by moonshine he becomes his own worst nightmare he becomes his dad Mr Dixon
Season 5 Beth dies he,s off on his own again this time he stops and listened to carol he doesn't flinch at her touch and is still looking for water for the group so two steps forward from season 2
Season 6 Denise ,this time he reacts with anger revenge on his mind but (and I'm not saying this in a shipper way just how it came across to me ) carol after the same boat told him she wasn't ok then at the start of twice as far we see him ask carol what happened but she doesn't elaborate and walks away So his touchstone has turn away from him ,we know she's his touchstone from back at Grady this also sets up his stupid move at the line up
Season 7 Glenn's death we see him being tortured but he ultimately chooses that over becoming a saviour ie an abuser
So I think gimple is trying to show us the on going struggle of a man with 40 plus years of abuse on his back trying to break the cycle but it's coming at the cost of other characters it's overshadowing other characters emotional responses to the deaths of the people their closest too
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Post by dandelioncherokee on Jul 2, 2017 8:07:58 GMT -5
nixnaxI agree about Gimple's possible intention regarding the manpain. If TWD was a movie,and the story would unfold in a compact amount of time,I would be okay with this.But in a series,this arc and especially the repetition is utterly tiring.Gimple is dragging out wayyyyy to much.I'm just so tired about the story they have given to Daryl the last 3 seasons.Nobody that isn't heavily interested in the show is able to see what story Gimple is crafting here. My last hope is that Gimple's conclusion to all this is,that Daryl and Carol will finally overcome their issues of the past in admitting their love for each other and in the physical consummation.Healing each other.Letting go.
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Post by nixnax on Jul 2, 2017 8:37:08 GMT -5
nixnax I agree about Gimple's possible intention regarding the manpain. If TWD was a movie,and the story would unfold in a compact amount of time,I would be okay with this.But in a series,this arc and especially the repetition is utterly tiring.Gimple is dragging out wayyyyy to much.I'm just so tired about the story they have given to Daryl the last 3 seasons.Nobody that isn't heavily interested in the show is able to see what story Gimple is crafting here. My last hope is that Gimple's conclusion to all this is,that Daryl and Carol will finally overcome their issues of the past in admitting their love for each other and in the physical consummation.Healing each other.Letting go. Totally agree it's too long regular viewers just see Daryl as a big cry baby at this point well my two sons do he's gone from being their favourite to them wishing for his death Slow and steady doesn't always win the race sometimes it just bores people to death I too am hoping caryl come together bringing them both some peace and love
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Post by booksrbetter on Jul 2, 2017 13:45:45 GMT -5
Daryl + Guilt/Grief = Boredom We've been there and done that way too many times. I can't see how this character maintains his popularity. The character is stuck in an endless loop of anger/grief. Writers, please let this character move on to a new storyline. The only time I like Daryl is when he is with Carol. I did like him in 7-10 because he was more concerned about her than his own guilt-grief. Maybe someone else will wallow in sorrow and grief this season.
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Post by sonia on Jul 2, 2017 22:56:26 GMT -5
Daryl: Manpain 3.0? I feel like it's Daryl: Manpain 17.0
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