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Post by nana on Mar 24, 2016 22:36:31 GMT -5
I'm already thinking of the kingdom as a certainly at this point. Premature? Yes, but this show isn't subtle - and given how much they've done to remove her from team family's orbit I think it's a strong possibility. At this point, I'm fine with it - she needs to move beyond where she is mentally and if the ASZ is a toxic place for her then it's the right thing. nana it's hard to say with Daryl. After so many seasons mirroring each other's story the one difference is that Daryl has stayed essentially the same since season three. In order for him to make a change something would have to truly shake him. I'm not saying there aren't opportunites for that but gimple seems to prefer Daryl so much as a character that is consistent, rather than evolving. Maybe season 7 will be a break from all of this if gimple has satisfied his comic lust. They seem to have led Daryl down a path this season, only to take it away...there were times when I thought they really were going to do something with his character. But I am an optimist, even though most of the time it creates deep pain for me. Once again I am clinging to the hope they will do something in these next two episodes to redeem Daryl from this Groundhogs Day of mainpain he eternally undergoes. At some point, he gets it right and is released.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Mar 25, 2016 15:19:23 GMT -5
If you haven't done so already, hit up the She Said/She Said Rant thread. The HitFix video perfectly sums up how I feel about this arc. Link
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Post by Mia on Mar 25, 2016 21:16:18 GMT -5
I don't think Gimple has a clue what he is doing with Carol. He needs to go back to the dart board and try to come up with something else. I hate what he is doing to her i get what he is going for but he is doing it all wrong. >
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Post by Starlight on Mar 29, 2016 12:49:40 GMT -5
I hate Carols arcs this season. They are completely forced and contrived and all because SG gets idea and he can't bloody bend it.So he moved Morgan's story from season 5 to season 6, which completed ruined the natural flow of Carol's development leading to character having one of the most confusing bizarre arcs in season 6.
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Post by Meggo358 on Mar 29, 2016 16:46:46 GMT -5
The only solace I have regarding Carols story this season is that hers is one of many problematic stories.
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Post by Meggo358 on Mar 29, 2016 16:49:41 GMT -5
The only solace I have regarding Carols story this season is that hers is one of many arcs which didn't translate well this season. If it was only Carol, I might worry that they were intentionally ruining her character.
It's actually just general sloppiness this season....which is oddly comforting
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Post by greaterpursuit on Apr 7, 2016 18:21:07 GMT -5
I really don't know what to say other than this arc with Carol and Morgan has completely tainted my love for the show. I'm only still in the fandom because I enjoy Carol and Caryl fans and what they have to say.
And I'm surprised that there's so little discussion about some fairly obvious ageism and misogyny in Carol's arc since 5B. There's no way any of the younger actresses would ever have ever received this type of arc and had so much gratuitous violence foisted on them.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Apr 9, 2016 14:11:00 GMT -5
I really don't know what to say other than this arc with Carol and Morgan has completely tainted my love for the show. I'm only still in the fandom because I enjoy Carol and Caryl fans and what they have to say. And I'm surprised that there's so little discussion about some fairly obvious ageism and misogyny in Carol's arc since 5B. There's no way any of the younger actresses would ever have ever received this type of arc and had so much gratuitous violence foisted on them. Ripley and I have talked about the extreme levels of violence forced on Carol since season 5. The van drop The Grady cops hitting her with their car Morgan body slamming her into inner earth The savior punching and slapping her then slowly torturing her with gunshots to the arm and leg When was the last time we saw this level of constant misery porn inflicted on a female member of team family? We haven't. Michonne fought with the Governor and was shot? or sliced? by one of the Governor's men. Maggie was sexually assaulted. All horrible, but thankfully they didn't have to go through two consecutive seasons of abuse. What's happening to Carol does reek of both ageism and misogyny. And the fact that she's a DV survivor makes it all the more alarming.
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Post by Starlight on Apr 27, 2016 9:05:46 GMT -5
The more I think about Carol's story in season 6, the more I believe it was done to give the returning Morgan something to do.And to get Morgan to the kindgom which I think SG always wanted for Morgan. And he used Carol to do it >
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Post by Meggo358 on Apr 27, 2016 11:09:52 GMT -5
The more I think about Carol's story in season 6, the more I believe it was done to give the returning Morgan something to do.And to get Morgan to the kindgom which I think SG always wanted for Morgan. And he used Carol to do it > The thing is though gimple should be able to work with an actors timeline without butchering another characters story. That should be possible. The shifting of stories around due to schedules doesn't explain why he took Carol in such an ooc direction. Not disagreeing with you, by the way. Just some addition notes of confusion
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Post by reckon on May 10, 2016 18:46:00 GMT -5
Maybe SG was trying to recreate the magic of Carol and Ty with the Carol/Morgan arc, but it didn't work because the storyline didn't make any sense. If Carol didn't break over the death of Sophia, her only child, she wouldn't break over the deaths of strangers who tried to kill her family. And it made no sense for Morgan to focus on Carol, whom he'd never even met, after he walked hundreds of miles to find Rick. Bad, ooc writing and storyline. I hope the writers move on in season 7. They say they like to change things up every half season? We just endured an entire season of that mess. That's more than enough. :/
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on May 10, 2016 21:03:07 GMT -5
Maybe SG was trying to recreate the magic of Carol and Ty with the Carol/Morgan arc, but it didn't work because the storyline didn't make any sense. If Carol didn't break over the death of Sophia, her only child, she wouldn't break over the deaths of strangers who tried to kill her family. And it made no sense for Morgan to focus on Carol, whom he'd never even met, after he walked hundreds of miles to find Rick. Bad, ooc writing and storyline. I hope the writers move on in season 7. They say they like to change things up every half season? We just endured an entire season of that mess. That's more than enough. :/ I would take Carol and Tyreese all day every day over this Morgan forced arc crap. There was so much story to tell for sweetheart Tyreese, and the Cyreese chemistry was wonderful. It hurts. It still hurts.
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Post by dark sister on May 10, 2016 21:36:01 GMT -5
No one can recreate Carol and Ty in The Grove. They had wonderful chemistry and a beautifully complicated relationship. I'm still slightly annoyed they didn't show Carol in his funeral scene.
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Post by Starlight on May 11, 2016 10:06:00 GMT -5
OMG I loved Carol and Tyreese on the screen. Melissa and Chad had amazing chemistry together.I would kill Morgan in a heart to resurrect Tyreese. I hated that the show glossed over Carol's relationship with Tyreese after everything that happened in season 4.
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Post by greaterpursuit on May 11, 2016 14:18:44 GMT -5
No one can recreate Carol and Ty in The Grove. They had wonderful chemistry and a beautifully complicated relationship. I'm still slightly annoyed they didn't show Carol in his funeral scene. Add it to the list of missed opportunities in organic storytelling. The list is growing with each and every episode.
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Post by Starlight on Jun 18, 2016 8:41:29 GMT -5
The more I think about her story,and were it could go in season 7a the more I want to erase Morgan and the kindgom from Carol’s orbit.
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Post by yuna on Jun 27, 2016 14:50:29 GMT -5
I just want Carol to be happy and safe but Gimple loves to kept her in misery.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jun 27, 2016 15:49:05 GMT -5
I just want Carol to be happy and safe but Gimple loves to kept her in misery. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see Carol happy and safe for a while yet. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Meggo358 on Jun 27, 2016 16:51:10 GMT -5
I just want Carol to be happy and safe but Gimple loves to kept her in misery. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see Carol happy and safe for a while yet. Hope I'm wrong. I'm hoping we're nearing the end of the misery ride. It's not realistic or sustainable for a character to suffer this much or be so isolated for this long with know payoff. Obviously I'm keeping in mind that this is gimple were talking about here but I do think the SF last year was her breaking point and we'll start to see her recover this season. Honestly if they intended for her to keep suffering they could have just left her on Mr. Home Depot's porch.
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Post by booksrbetter on Jun 27, 2016 17:16:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll see Carol happy and safe for a while yet. Hope I'm wrong. I'm hoping we're nearing the end of the misery ride. It's not realistic or sustainable for a character to suffer this much or be so isolated for this long with know payoff. Obviously I'm keeping in mind that this is gimple were talking about here but I do think the SF last year was her breaking point and we'll start to see her recover this season. Honestly if they intended for her to keep suffering they could have just left her on Mr. Home Depot's porch. It's time for the misery train to pull into the station. Daryl and Carol have both been brutalized for too long. They have been taking the beating and have kept on ticking, and they deserve some peace. They were both bleeding and beat down in the last episode of season six. There must be some reason why both of them are too wounded to fight. They didn't have much conversation time during Season Six. Surely there will be something happening in the next season. I know this is a Carol thread but Carol and Daryl have been entwined since season I don't see why they wrote Carol as being too upset because she has to kill to save her family. To me it was Kavid and Lizzie that makes her feel that she shouldn't be with them. That being able to kill because it protected her family. Carol falling apart because she killed the Wolves? Seriously? Carol leaving because she killed Saviors at the outpost? Seriously Carol killed the Saviors with a weapon that she designed and implemented. So if she was so against killing why did she build the Arm of Death? Let Carol deal with her guilt over Kavid and Lizzie. And let her move on. Loved the Home Depot man comment.
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Jun 27, 2016 17:57:18 GMT -5
Ladies, I keep my expectations low out of self preservation, especially when it comes to this show. That way, I'm pleasantly surprised if something nice happens - like good writing, good storytelling, not changing the characters already established behaviors to fit the story.
We should take bets as to when we'll see a genuine smile from Carol. I'm talking an honest to goodness, can't help herself smile. I say it's the 2nd episode she's featured in in 7B.
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Post by Mia on Jun 27, 2016 20:05:46 GMT -5
Ladies, I keep my expectations low out of self preservation, especially when it comes to this show. That way, I'm pleasantly surprised if something nice happens - like good writing, good storytelling, not changing the characters already established behaviors to fit the story. We should take bets as to when we'll see a genuine smile from Carol. I'm talking an honest to goodness, can't help herself smile. I say it's the 2nd episode she's featured in in 7B. With the way filming is going I am taking bets of when and how much we will see Carol this season.
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Post by Starlight on Jun 28, 2016 8:30:37 GMT -5
My expectations for Carol actually having a good story in season 7a are low, they are so low they are in the center of the earth. And the reason for my expectations being so low is Dickstick :-[ SG thinks that Dickstick is the bees knees :-[
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Post by Kitsune on Oct 29, 2016 20:39:52 GMT -5
What she says: I'm fine
What she really means: What the hell is up with this current story arc that Carol is going through? We have to speed this up. I need my badass Carol back in action.
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Post by misspouet on Nov 1, 2016 15:05:58 GMT -5
What do you think about that ?
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Post by Sexual Chocolate on Nov 1, 2016 16:53:15 GMT -5
What do you think about that ? I think this is clickbait more than anything with a misinterpretation of the song played. The song played to foreshadow Carol leaving the Kingdom not her death, imo. This same site has a link to this article: Carol Peletier: Her Slow Spiral Into Insanity In 'The Walking Dead'One can say Carol is experiencing PSTD, or call her mopey, but if one is calling her insane then they're not watching the same show. However, I do like the photo used. The quote on the wall is the same one (paraphrased) Carl said to Judith. About how finding the North Star will always lead you home. Ripley ETA: I found the gif of Carl and Judith
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Post by Ripley on Nov 1, 2016 17:13:09 GMT -5
What do you think about that ? I think it's simply movie pilot "clickbait" hoping for site traffic and scaring Carol fans. I think Carol is completely safe as of now through 8.15. I won't even start to worry about Carol's safety unless big filming spoilers come out of 7.16, but I'm honestly not at all worried about that misspouet
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Post by Starlight on Nov 1, 2016 17:34:25 GMT -5
After reading that article.
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Post by dark sister on Nov 1, 2016 20:02:45 GMT -5
Not clicking that article but I love the comparison with what Carl told Judith. That's so sweet.
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Post by Kitsune on Nov 1, 2016 22:37:46 GMT -5
I swear, everybody in this arc wants a slice of that Carol booty. Can't really blame em, though.
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